| 11 Feb 2021 |
 irelativism | tulir: didnt you spoke of something similar ounce? | 22:06:05 |
 uhoreg | In reply to @simon.brandner:envs.net
I don't think I understand, sorry, attributions? I am not a native English speaker... 😅 "attributions" is crediting other people/projects who created things that we use, | 22:12:08 |
| uhoreg | e.g. | 22:12:13 |
| uhoreg | 
Download image.png | 22:12:18 |
| 12 Feb 2021 |
 Nad (afk) | In reply to @irelativism:tchncs.de
Nad: if that is the case maybe i should close the issue no? is the sticker parta als being implemented or already done? ah, we don't have any plans to combine them immediately | 12:36:11 |
| Nad (afk) | it seems like a potentially nice tweak, but also an a subjective one | 12:36:31 |
| Nad (afk) | there's risk of damaging discoverability of the features, etc | 12:36:41 |
| Nad (afk) | * it seems like a potentially nice tweak, but also it's a subjective one | 12:37:03 |
 Å imon Brandner | I feel like making it optional would be a solution but it's also a bunch of work to write that... | 12:37:25 |
| Nad (afk) | not trying to undermine the value of the change :) but instead just outline that there's also no real objective reason to make it either | 12:37:40 |
 tulir | stickers and emojis in the same button is probably what everyone already expects from other apps | 12:37:54 |
| tulir | but merging those probably requires native stickers first (instead of the current iframe mess) | 12:38:09 |
| Nad (afk) | we're working on voice messages at the moment, which involves reworking the composer | 12:38:23 |
| Nad (afk) | and includes thinking ahead of how to scale the composer over time (e.g. what happens when we want to add polls, other things) | 12:38:40 |
| Å imon Brandner | In reply to @tulir:maunium.net
but merging those probably requires native stickers first (instead of the current iframe mess) Yeah... I think it might be possible to do it with the iframe but it's hardly ideal | 12:39:06 |
| Nad (afk) | and also involves thinking through cross-platform journeys, e.g. if I build muscle memory on web, how does it behave when I switch to my android device, etc | 12:39:09 |
| Å imon Brandner | In reply to @simon.brandner:envs.net
Yeah... I think it might be possible to do it with the iframe but it's hardly ideal And we could also want a GIF thingy | 12:39:32 |
| Nad (afk) | there are other related factors like how mobile keyboards behave, how it makes sense to combine different actions, how to use segmented controls on mobile to switch between them, etc
I think just combining the sticker picker parts on web now would be needless as it's not the highest priority thing anyway, and we'd end up double-triple handling it | 12:41:35 |
| Nad (afk) changed their display name from Nad to Nad (afk). | 13:18:44 |
| 13 Feb 2021 |
| irelativism | those seam valid arguments, but ultimately I feel is a waste of such prime realstate to have both emoji/stickers/gifs in there when a very small subset of users utelize them often. but I understand the all emerging fix might be nontrivial. maybe do a popo where both uttons fall into? | 02:28:50 |
| irelativism | * those seam valid arguments, but ultimately I feel is a waste of such prime real-estate to have both emoji/stickers/gifs in there . When only a very small subset of users, utelize them often. but I understand the all emerging fix might be nontrivial. maybe do a popup where both buttons fall into, dont know? | 02:30:32 |
| irelativism changed their profile picture. | 15:04:54 |
 yusf | Are there any mockups for Spaces for public consumption? 🤓 | 17:55:34 |
| Å imon Brandner | yusf: I doubt that, probably, the best thing you can do is watch the Matrix Live Video or try the WIP branch | 17:56:44 |
| yusf | Šimon Brandner: Watch the latest TWIM but I didn’t see anything about it. | 17:57:29 |
| Å imon Brandner | I'll send you a link, give me a moment | 17:57:54 |
| Å imon Brandner | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzUfS08lMek&t=4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ade0FZfnWo&t=310s | 17:58:37 |
| yusf | Thanks alot Å imon Brandner! | 18:12:46 |
| Å imon Brandner | You're welcome! | 18:13:03 |
| yusf | Looks pretty good! Can’t wait to star using. | 18:18:44 |
