| 8 Jan 2019 |
 ontologymachine | to me the marker of the security/sovereignty equilibrium being reached is feeling as secure in health insurance as an autonomous entity as in the infrastructures that support it (certain jobs, being a dependent of your parents, being married) | 03:54:41 |
| ontologymachine | thankfully i have health insurance btw so this is just theoretical but the underlying message there has always really bothered me | 03:58:41 |
|  Asgeir joined the room. | 07:28:52 |
| Asgeir | I also do not need healthcare insurance. In Norway healthcare is ”free” (each person can pay a maximum of ca. 116 USD a year) | 07:39:22 |
 orishim | ontologymachine: I think overcoming the security/sovereignty dichotomy – which is exacerbated by the growing gig economy– is a great way to frame this issue.In America at least, its work for a corporation and get all sorts of protections ( workers' comp, health insurance, severance, | 17:06:46 |
| orishim | Or work for yourself and take on all of those burdens/risks yourself | 17:07:15 |
| orishim | I think we could devise schemes that DAOs could plug in that handle some of these | 17:07:49 |
| orishim | and serve as that 'functional commons layer' | 17:08:09 |
| Asgeir | 👍 | 17:08:18 |
| orishim | we could expand this thinking beyond healthcare to "any non-wage compensation or services provided to participants" | 17:09:34 |
| orishim | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employee_benefits | 17:09:53 |
| orishim | some examples from the wiki article: housing, utilities, group insurance, disability income protection, retirement benefits, daycare, tuition reimbursement | 17:11:07 |
| orishim | to eventually outcompete and supercede corporations as the dominant mode of organization, DAOs (or networks ancillary to them) must develop a way to provide these sorts of guaruntees to participants | 17:12:33 |
| orishim | I like the idea of DAOs purchasing property and houses for members to live in without needing to pay rent :) | 17:13:25 |
| orishim | Or of a DAO sponsoring a member to go do a PhD on holographic consensus... similar to how tech companies pay for their employees to do technical degrees | 17:14:30 |
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 dOrgJelli | 110% orishim I agree, ideally we'd created a suite of benefits that Agents working within DAOs would have access to. Renaming this channel to "dOrg-Benefits" sounds good? | 20:39:26 |
| dOrgJelli | Ideally this benefits network would still stay intact if you work for other DAOs, that we avoid being stuck with one organization | 20:40:25 |
| Asgeir | Really exciting ideas 😃 | 20:51:22 |
| dOrgJelli changed the room name to "dOrg-Benefits" from "dOrg-Healthcare". | 20:52:39 |
| 9 Jan 2019 |
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| 11 Jan 2019 |
| Asgeir changed their display name from dOrgAsgeir to dOrg | Asgeir. | 22:43:55 |
| 16 Jan 2019 |
| dOrgJelli changed the room name to "dOrg-Legal" from "dOrg-Benefits". | 21:47:49 |
| 18 Jan 2019 |
| dOrgJelli set the room topic to "Chats: https://riot.im/app/#/group/+dorgtech:matrix.org". | 01:36:46 |
| ontologymachine | Legal = Law<>Code, "ecosystem effects" of DAOs enabling access to the legal system, or both? ;) | 06:01:34 |
| 25 Jan 2019 |
| orishim set a profile picture. | 23:15:29 |
| 26 Jan 2019 |
| dOrgJelli changed the room name to "dOrg-Benefits" from "dOrg-Legal". | 14:25:55 |
| dOrgJelli | Benefits = [ Legal, Insurance, FinTech, etc ] | 14:26:40 |
| dOrgJelli | https://blog.etherisc.com/etherisc-open-sources-the-generic-insurance-framework-gif-e5163e919817 | 14:26:45 |
