| 5 Nov 2019 |
| 10:55:33 |  Sheogorath | Oh, I see, all good :) |
| 14:08:51 |  Github [@sheogorath:shivering-isles.com] | [codimd/server] parisni opened issue #221: Allow spellcheck for other languages than english [open] - https://github.com/codimd/server/issues/221 |
| 14:43:49 | Github [@sheogorath:shivering-isles.com] | [codimd/server] blaggacao opened issue #222: Add git storage backend [open] - https://github.com/codimd/server/issues/222 |
| 7 Nov 2019 |
| 01:13:48 | Github [@sheogorath:shivering-isles.com] | [codimd/server] blaggacao edited issue #222: Add git export / import connector [open] - https://github.com/codimd/server/issues/222 |
| 01:20:38 | Github [@sheogorath:shivering-isles.com] | [codimd/server] blaggacao closed issue #207: Custom Style rendering [closed] - https://github.com/codimd/server/issues/207 |
| 9 Nov 2019 |
| 09:50:21 | Sheogorath | David: Any change you have a look at your PR this weekend? Would like to start to work toards 1.6.0 release |
| 11 Nov 2019 |
| 10:15:08 |  perflyst | why got https://github.com/hackmdio/codimd/releases/tag/1.4.0 a new release? |
| 10:15:16 | perflyst | isnt this deprecated and now under codimd/server |
| 10:16:26 |  amenthes | no, it's a separate project |
| 10:16:49 | amenthes | after HackMD didn't care about CodiMD for ~a year, they now decided that they do want to work on it, apparently. |
| 10:17:57 | amenthes | The situation is super F*'d up, in my opinion. |
| 10:18:12 | amenthes | A few of our community brought this up with them, especially regarding the naming |
| 10:18:21 | amenthes | https://github.com/hackmdio/codimd/releases/tag/1.4.0 |
| 10:18:25 | amenthes | sorry wrong link |
| 10:18:28 | amenthes | https://github.com/hackmdio/codimd/issues/1219 |
| 10:19:12 | perflyst | but codimd/server will kept? you dont care about these dudes? |
| 10:19:58 | amenthes | we're not going back to HackMD, that's for sure :-D |
| 10:20:15 | perflyst | good! thanks for the info |
| 10:20:54 | amenthes | As I voiced in the issue above: I do not understand their intention at all. |
| 10:21:54 | amenthes | About two years ago, it was much clearer. They prepared their private, paid offering HackMD. That's when Sheogorath took over for well over a year. |
| 10:22:42 | amenthes | Now, for some reason, they want to be more involved, but what they described sounded a lot like it might kill the community project |
| 10:23:47 | amenthes | (my personal red flag was: they wanted to contribute to some CORE package that would have been under a different license. Personally, I think this would have hollowed out the AGPL-Licensed part, which is a very strong license for users of a project) |
| 10:25:58 | perflyst | the gitlab way |
| 10:26:13 | perflyst | that is why i dont report bugs to gitlab |
| 10:36:48 | Sheogorath | To me the problem was neither that they wanted to get more involved nor that we might had to restructure the repository. The extend of that would have definitely up to debate for me. But what really drove me off, was the repeated statement, that I would want to run away with other people's work.
Which I tried to prevent by explicitly asking them beforehand which opened the initial discussion. About the whole "switch to open core" and "getting more involved again". I should have done the work on my fork from day one, but was a bit too naive in that perspective. Anyway.
To me the reason to hardfork was not the ideas that came up in the discussion, but the tone that was used, which was a very clear "We own this organisation and you or any other community member are not going to make any significant decision about the organisation of this project" |
| 10:38:12 | Sheogorath | And to answer this question beforehand: Yes, we are going to provide a version 1.6.0 soon, which includes all the wonderful contributions from Hacktoberfest :) |
| 14:07:17 | perflyst | Sounds like Owncloud / Nextcloud debate |
| 16:58:40 | Sheogorath | Yeah, and we actually wanted to avoid this whole debate when we took over by deciding to go AGPL. They even mentioned in their community statement back then, that they have no intentions to comercialize the community. And it seems like this statement was valid until I asked them to move the repository to the new organisation. I had a personal call with them, where they were mentioning that potential investors would like the fact that they have such a famous Open Source project. And that by moving this to another organisation they would might loose some business value.
Which then again in the "final" debate by them stating that I was just around to keep things warm for this year, and that they would now step up again to take over the repository from there. So I basically spend around a year sponsoring one of the biggest values of HackMD. But enough of that, I'll only be annoyed about this, when I go on. There is way to much burned ground left… Sorry for that… |
| 23:59:44 | |  TravisR joined the room. |
| 13 Nov 2019 |
| 10:17:57 | |  jidbo joined the room. |
