| 19 Apr 2024 |
 Midou | and droidguard is being a pita to validate (if it's related to play integrity), you need a locked bootloader (optional, so far), a valid device fingerprint, and nothing proving you modified the filesystem | 23:12:47 |
 TheFrenchGhosty | time to go back to scraping the web ! | 23:24:24 |
| Midou | that is definitely not going to be easy either :P | 23:25:08 |
| Midou | especially knowing youtube, it would be the easiest thing they could pull off, changing the css styles randomly to throw off the XSS | 23:25:36 |
| Midou | * especially knowing youtube, it would be the easiest thing they could pull off, changing the css styles randomly to throw off the Xpath | 23:25:56 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | it worked "ok" before the innertube | 23:27:42 |
| Midou | but this time youtube is actively fighting for ad revenue | 23:29:35 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | ... and they're loosing | 23:30:03 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | they simply can't win without forcing DRM | 23:30:23 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | and forcing DRM will hurt the bottom line a lot (and the DRM will be cracked really quickly anyway) | 23:31:01 |
| Midou | how about captchas ? actually do they even enforce it on youtube? 🤔 | 23:31:10 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | In reply to @midou:envs.net
how about captchas ? actually do they even enforce it on youtube? 🤔 anticaptcha | 23:31:39 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 23:31:41 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | 0.02 € / captcha | 23:32:06 |
| Midou | poor indians doing the job again... | 23:32:09 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | * 0.002 € / captcha | 23:32:10 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | better than working in a field/factory | 23:32:34 |
| Midou | In reply to @thefrenchghosty:pussthecat.org
0.002 € / captcha plus that could easily ruin a popular instance actually | 23:32:37 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | In reply to @midou:envs.net
plus that could easily ruin a popular instance actually Invidious uses to do it | 23:32:50 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | big instance paid less than 5€/month for it | 23:33:06 |
| Midou | huh | 23:33:12 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | Point is: they can't do it without hurting their users | 23:34:21 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | and they can't afford to hurt their users, because it would hurt their bottom line | 23:34:44 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | * Point is: they can't do anything that actually "work" without hurting their users | 23:35:01 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | Because the solution would be easy: just Widevine everything | 23:35:22 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | but as I said before:
"they simply can't win without forcing DRM
and forcing DRM will hurt the bottom line a lot (and the DRM will be cracked really quickly anyway)" | 23:35:36 |
| Midou | fair enough | 23:35:50 |
| Midou | I wish i could help the project just to spite on youtube tbh | 23:36:14 |
 absidue | In reply to @thefrenchghosty:pussthecat.org
time to go back to scraping the web ! you'll need a js engine in Invidious so that you can decipher the URLs for that | 23:36:56 |
| absidue | In reply to @thefrenchghosty:pussthecat.org
time to go back to scraping the web ! * you'll need a js engine in Invidious so that you can decipher the streaming URLs for that | 23:37:06 |
