| 19 Apr 2024 |
 TheFrenchGhosty | In reply to @thefrenchghosty:pussthecat.org
but as I said before:
"they simply can't win without forcing DRM
and forcing DRM will hurt the bottom line a lot (and the DRM will be cracked really quickly anyway)" Widevine is cracked, but the cracks aren't public because there's no "point" in having it public (since all the content can easily get published)
If youtube uses Widevine, the content couldn't easily get published since there's SO MUCH content... so the crack will end up being public
| 23:37:19 |
 absidue | Just to be clear YouTube already uses widewine, but only for movies (both for the pay to view and free with ada ones), which makes sense as they have to stick to whatever licensing contracts they have with the studios, which probably require DRM. | 23:39:28 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | And as I said in the podcast episode I did, basically youtube frontends/alternative clients wouldn't exist if paying for premium removed the crap: no spyware, no sponsors | 23:40:13 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | The fact that paying doesn't change the fact that google tracks you + that sponsors are in all moderately popular videos... means that it pointless to pay | 23:40:56 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | In reply to @absidue:matrix.org
Just to be clear YouTube already uses widewine, but only for movies (both for the pay to view and free with ada ones), which makes sense as they have to stick to whatever licensing contracts they have with the studios, which probably require DRM. Yes but as I said "the cracks aren't public because there's no "point" in having it public (since all the content can easily get published)" | 23:41:21 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | (and the content that doesn't get "properly" published just get webripped by random guy who wants the content) | 23:42:25 |
| absidue | In reply to @thefrenchghosty:pussthecat.org
Yes but as I said "the cracks aren't public because there's no "point" in having it public (since all the content can easily get published)" You really don't want to be using any cracks in anything like Invidious, as bypassing DRM is illegal in many jurisdictions. | 23:42:51 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | In reply to @absidue:matrix.org
You really don't want to be using any cracks in anything like Invidious, as bypassing DRM is illegal in many jurisdictions. Sure, I wouldn't be able to work on it | 23:43:18 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | but our Russian friends will | 23:43:25 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | and I may or may not use it | 23:43:54 |
| absidue | In reply to @thefrenchghosty:pussthecat.org
and I may or may not use it all they would need to do is prove that you used an invidious instance, as a users you would get in trouble too | 23:44:34 |
| absidue | In reply to @thefrenchghosty:pussthecat.org
and I may or may not use it * all they would need to do is prove that you used an invidious instance, as users you would get in trouble too | 23:44:46 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | Invidious doesn't depend on anyone, as I said when the takedown request happen: if they force us to stop, you know what to do | 23:44:53 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | In reply to @absidue:matrix.org
all they would need to do is prove that you used an invidious instance, as users you would get in trouble too Piracy "users" don't get in trouble | 23:45:30 |
| absidue | There is a big difference between a DMCA request and breaking the law | 23:45:47 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | Tell that to the thousands of pirated files I may or may not have downloaded over the years | 23:46:48 |
| absidue | In reply to @thefrenchghosty:pussthecat.org
Piracy "users" don't get in trouble only because in many cases it's too expensive to go after individual viewers | 23:46:49 |
 Midou | In reply to @thefrenchghosty:pussthecat.org
Invidious doesn't depend on anyone, as I said when the takedown request happen: if they force us to stop, you know what to do reminder that yuzu got taken down, nobody competent continued the project. | 23:47:09 |
| Midou | Also this is getting off topic | 23:47:13 |
| Midou | better move to pfo | 23:47:16 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | In reply to @midou:envs.net
reminder that yuzu got taken down, nobody competent continued the project. The project is basically done | 23:47:35 |
| TheFrenchGhosty | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 23:47:37 |
 rank_ghost | Isn't yuzu is open source like invidious ? | 23:48:41 |
| Midou | the discussion moved to #pfo:matrix.org, please move there if you're going to finish with the emulator talk | 23:49:08 |
| absidue | In reply to @rank_ghost:m.wfr.moe
Isn't yuzu is open source like invidious ? open source means nothing if nobody that has the knowledge required to maintain something like that wants to maintain it | 23:49:14 |
| Midou | * the discussion moved to #pfo:matrix.org, please move there if you're going to continue with the emulator talk | 23:49:16 |
| Midou | guys | 23:49:23 |
| Midou | * guys please | 23:49:26 |
| 20 Apr 2024 |
|  ghdox joined the room. | 01:43:28 |
| ghdox | Oh lame I thought this was umbrel support. They haven't updated their version of the app since like January | 01:44:08 |
