| 24 Feb 2023 |
 poVoq | löve, libgdx? | 18:39:53 |
| poVoq | maybe not at big as Godot, but still far from barebones | 18:40:12 |
 Rampoina | yeah those are small engines, but you still picked ones that use stuff like that | 18:40:40 |
| Rampoina | see opensurge just as a random example | 18:40:52 |
| Rampoina | dunno, globulation2 all custom | 18:41:03 |
| Rampoina | etc | 18:41:05 |
| poVoq | those are both really old projects from when there was little other choice | 18:41:32 |
| Rampoina | C-Dogs SDL | 18:41:41 |
| Rampoina | OpenTTD | 18:41:44 |
| Rampoina | the list goes on | 18:41:47 |
| poVoq | SDL is nearly a game engine :p | 18:42:07 |
| Rampoina | poVoq: that doesn't matter, I'd still pick SDL over löve for example, and still today you keep seeing people making engines from scratch | 18:42:20 |
| poVoq | yes it happens, but it is generally a bad idea | 18:42:38 |
| Rampoina | nah, it just helps for the drawing, input and sound a bit | 18:42:40 |
 potatoxel | i usually call these frameworks (SDL, monogame, etc..) | 18:42:41 |
| Rampoina | but still pretty low level | 18:42:43 |
| poVoq | true, that's why I said almost | 18:42:57 |
| poVoq | nearly | 18:43:03 |
| Rampoina | poVoq: my point isn't whether it's a good or bad idea, but that this is what developers have fun doing | 18:43:17 |
| potatoxel | its fun to rewheel the invent | 18:43:36 |
| Rampoina | yes | 18:43:52 |
| Rampoina | potatoxel: don't hack my brain, I read that incorrectly :P | 18:44:24 |
| potatoxel | so u read the correct version? lol | 18:44:46 |
| Rampoina | the one that isn't written yes | 18:45:45 |
| Rampoina | although I noticed afterwards so maybe that doesn't count | 18:46:10 |
| Rampoina | :) | 18:46:13 |
| Rampoina | In reply to @irc_irc.freegamedev.net_povoq:irc.freegamedev.net
true, that's why I said almost it wouldn't be almost though when it's not even close to an engine | 18:46:48 |
| Rampoina | you could call OpenGL nearly an engine with this logic | 18:47:12 |
| poVoq | SDL has all these components for sound, networking etc, it is not only about graphics | 18:52:07 |
| Rampoina | all of them are just cross platform helper layers | 18:53:23 |
