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A new edition of TWIM every Friday! Please submit details of your Matrix projects here on Fridays, and react with the correct section https://github.com/matrix-org/twim-o-matic#emoji-section-map https://matrix.org/twim | Next deadline for video demos: 2021-01-15437 Servers

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25 Jul 2021
@david:gnome.orgDavid PrietoIn that case, would that mean that everyone-ish in Germany would have a Matrix account which they could use to talk to each other?17:46:35
@david:gnome.orgDavid PrietoEven if they can't use it to talk to anyone else?17:46:48
@shiny:shine.horseShine
In reply to @david:gnome.org
In that case, would that mean that everyone-ish in Germany would have a Matrix account which they could use to talk to each other?
The "each other" part... That's up to Gematik, but I wouldn't bet on that.
17:47:54
@sorunome:sorunome.deSorunome
In reply to @mtrnord:nordgedanken.dev
not sure about private insured but its probably more than 80%?
for private insurance you are freed from the requirement to get an insurance. So, it is entirely legal, from sorus understanding, if you meet the criteria to free yourself from the requirement of having a health insurance and then be uninsured (though that'd be stupid AF)
17:48:05
@david:gnome.orgDavid Prieto
In reply to @shiny:shine.horse
The "each other" part... That's up to Gematik, but I wouldn't bet on that.
I mean, it's a private federation. But you can still talk to other users if their accounts are on other servers in the same federation?
17:48:47
@sorunome:sorunome.deSorunome
In reply to @david:gnome.org
In that case, would that mean that everyone-ish in Germany would have a Matrix account which they could use to talk to each other?
for the talking to each other you'd have to provide a way to discover each other
17:48:54
@mtrnord:nordgedanken.devMTRNord
In reply to @david:gnome.org
I mean, it's a private federation. But you can still talk to other users if their accounts are on other servers in the same federation?
I think that would be a gdpr issue or even other stricter rules in germany about patient data.
17:49:18
@david:gnome.orgDavid Prieto
In reply to @sorunome:sorunome.de
for the talking to each other you'd have to provide a way to discover each other
If the other person gives you their MXID?
17:49:23
@sorunome:sorunome.deSorunome
In reply to @david:gnome.org
If the other person gives you their MXID?
if the clients allow displaying that mxid and inviting, and the servers do, too? handling medical data is under strict data protection regulatiosn in germany, soru can imagine that only approved clients could be used or something
17:50:54
@david:gnome.orgDavid Prieto
In reply to @mtrnord:nordgedanken.dev
I think that would be a gdpr issue or even other stricter rules in germany about patient data.
Does Matrix even allow HS administrators to keep their users from talking to each other, though?
17:51:21
@mtrnord:nordgedanken.devMTRNord
In reply to @david:gnome.org
Does Matrix even allow HS administrators to keep their users from talking to each other, though?
lets say there are ways to make it hard
17:51:39
@matthew:matrix.orgMatthew
In reply to @shiny:shine.horse
The "each other" part... That's up to Gematik, but I wouldn't bet on that.
i would be a bit alarmed if random members of the public started DMing me on my healthcare app…
17:51:41
@sorunome:sorunome.deSorunomethat, too17:51:57
@shiny:shine.horseShine
In reply to @david:gnome.org
Does Matrix even allow HS administrators to keep their users from talking to each other, though?
Keep in mind that the protocol can be extended.
17:52:06
@mtrnord:nordgedanken.devMTRNord
In reply to @matthew:matrix.org
i would be a bit alarmed if random members of the public started DMing me on my healthcare app…
I would even consider it a data leak tbh.
17:52:07
@david:gnome.orgDavid Prieto
In reply to @shiny:shine.horse
Keep in mind that the protocol can be extended.
True
17:52:30
@david:gnome.orgDavid PrietoI guess it will have to17:53:05
@shiny:shine.horseShine
In reply to @david:gnome.org
I guess it will have to
Just wait for the specs, it will probably be public and Gematik seems to want that out soon-ish ^-^
17:54:07
@david:gnome.orgDavid PrietoYup. OK, time for me to watch the whole video17:54:56
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26 Jul 2021
@cat:feline.supportCat
In reply to @david:gnome.org
Does Matrix even allow HS administrators to keep their users from talking to each other, though?
Corporal or tools like it should be able to make it so it’s an illegal state to have non approved rooms and therefore not allow it to happen and that would achieve blocking of unapproved communication
03:46:14
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@callahad:matrix.orgcallahad
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TWIM:

Synapse

🚨 Yesterday we published Synapse 1.38.1 which mitigates a client bug trigged by changes to /sync responses in 1.38.0. Specifically, new Element Android sessions were unable to decrypt messages in end-to-end encrypted conversations.

⚙️ Otherwise, we've been doing quite a lot of internal / infrastructure work. Notably, we've completed the move from three separate CI systems to just one: GitHub Actions. We're also, for the first time, publishing Debian packages for our Release Candidates. We hope these changes move us towards a more reliable and seamless release process.

We'll have a lot to talk about re: Synapse 1.39 next week, but until then, enjoy the weekend! 🏖

benpa: Seems like this update didn't make it into the published TWIM?
09:35:19
@benpa:bpulse.orgbenpa callahad: oh no! let's fix that now 09:40:44
@callahad:matrix.orgcallahad I mean, I have push access to fix it myself, but not sure if there's a bug in ye olde twim-o-matic since the update was confirmed by the bot 09:41:34
@benpa:bpulse.orgbenpawasn't flaggeg by me. bug is pebkac09:42:32
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