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15 Sep 2019
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <ruby>Are we working on any project to further research on and even modeling mathematically on these governance mechanism in details? 09:43:37
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <aaron>When dealing with jurisprudence there is always risks that decisions don’t go your way however I’m pretty confident that there are protocol is secure.

Decisions can be appealed all the way up to include all acting jurors staked in the court. The very final desition will be decided by a futarchy market

10:58:08
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <aaron>There is some court simulation work done you can find that here https://github.com/aragonlabs/court-sim 10:58:58
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <aaron>Also there is a forum thread here https://forum.aragon.org/t/an-agent-based-simulation-and-analysis-of-aragons-court-mechanism/232?u=aaron 10:59:43
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <aaron>@jorge is leading the development on this so he will be able to go into much more detail about this 11:00:54
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <aaron>Also worth noting the protocol has been adapted from klerso.io which has been on main net for a little while now 11:02:12
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <ruby>Cool, very valuable information, will check the above works, thanks a lot Aaron! 11:35:13
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <aaron>No problem 🙂 13:37:51
16 Sep 2019
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <jorge>

is the amount of collateral refers to the amount of the budget associated with the respective proposal?

09:54:26
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <jorge>the amount of collateral needed to create a proposal is a parameter set in the Proposal Agreement (as the ‘agreement text’ itself), and it is constant for all proposals (as the amount of money at stake with a proposal is impossible to quantify, as a proposal could be upgrading a smart contract) 09:56:20
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <jorge>@ruby the amount of collateral needed to create a proposal is a parameter set in the Proposal Agreement (as the ‘agreement text’ itself), and it is constant for all proposals (as the amount of money at stake with a proposal is impossible to quantify, as a proposal could be upgrading a smart contract) 09:56:33
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <jorge>

Community member make a proposal seeking for fund support from the DAO like 100 usdt, does he/she need to collateral some DAO token into the smart contract? and if yes , how much that could be

09:57:15
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <jorge>every DAO will decide whether to install Proposal Agreements (it’s totally opt-in) and the DAO will be able to decide the proposal parameters: what token is used for collateral (e.g. ANT, DAI, the org’s native token or any ERC20). After Proposal Agreements is installed, creating proposals will require depositing such amount of collateral which is unlocked if the proposal is not challenged for a period of time 09:59:19
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <jorge>as Aaron points out, every DAO will decide whether to install Proposal Agreements (it’s totally opt-in) and the DAO will be able to decide the proposal parameters: what token is used for collateral (e.g. ANT, DAI, the org’s native token or any ERC20). After Proposal Agreements is installed, creating proposals will require depositing such amount of collateral which is unlocked if the proposal is not challenged for a period of time 10:00:31
19 Sep 2019
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <ruby> @jorge Thanks for the explanation Jorge, it’s more clear for me now, good info to be updated into my research 06:50:15
20 Sep 2019
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <lkngtn>What is the process for getting a channel for a community initiative in rocket chat? cc @light @aaron @burrrata 20:07:52
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <light>just ask, what do you need sir? 21:23:14
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <light>@lkngtn 21:23:21
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <lkngtn>Will defer to @aaron and @burrrata but they are working on the CRDAO design and implementation and would like to have a space specifically for that is inclusive of the Aragon community. 21:38:38
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <burrrata>Yup! We’ve starting drafting and building a CRDAO as we mentioned on the forum (https://forum.aragon.org/t/community-rewards-dao/1237), but realized that having our chats in Keybase might be kind of hard for people to find. Since the goal is for the project to be part of the community, it makes sense for it to be in a place where the community hangs out. Was thinking a #crdao channel here might be good 21:49:38
25 Sep 2019
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <Ruben_1>question, is the aragon court going to take over the aragon associations role? 15:47:43
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <Ruben_1>is there any visualization of how the structure is regarding Aragon Network, Aragon teams, Aragon platform? 17:24:38
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <light>@Ruben_1 there was a graphic made by @yalda a while ago to visualize the Aragon Network DAO https://twitter.com/stellarmagnet/status/1129746337996660737 19:45:20
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <light>basically all of these teams work for the network in some capacity and work on projects that advance the network’s mission and goals. 19:48:34
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <light>the Association is a nonprofit legal entity set up to safeguard the assets of the network while the network in its smart contract form is still being developed. the plan is to transfer those assets to the network as it matures and is ready and willing to accept them. 19:50:17
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <Ruben_1>Awesome thanks for the explination @light 21:18:14
10 Oct 2019
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <burrrata>Due to the lack of specificity in AGP-1 around the AGP “finalization” process, GitHub technical difficulties that broke the infrastructure that facilitates the AGP process, and last min comments/review by AA that did not leave room for AGP authors to incorporate feedback to update proposals - I am calling for the AA to enact an emergency vote to push every stage of ANV4 back by a week. More details can be found on this Aragon forum thread:

23:02:18
15 Oct 2019
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <ruby>http://wiki.gotoken.io/index.php/Aragon 17:26:18
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <ruby>@light @jdobon thanks for your previous explanation on Aragon’s governance, have organized the content into a Chinese wiki based on my understanding, please let me know if any inaccurate info inside 17:27:41
@bridge-bot:matrix.orgbridge-bot <ruby>@light @jorge thanks for your previous explanation on Aragon’s governance, have organized the content into a Chinese wiki based on my understanding, please let me know if any inaccurate info inside 17:35:22

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