Is Attali an Aragonian? - maybe you know 😎, maybe… https://blogs.lexpress.fr/attali/2019/05/14/will-we-know-how-to-avoid-the-revolution/

@julian I have one of his books on my short list, a Brief History of the Future. Terrifying economist.

@julian I have one of his books on my short list, a Brief History of the Future. Terrifying economist. A realist.

@Scribbles Nice, thanks for the tip, didn’t know that one. I reread this one every couple of years or so (am due another:) - and yes, like you say ‘terrifying’, is very apt (he’s good:). Recent’ish interview with him said that the 21stC is African, not Chinese, because Africa has all the best tunes. A dude too

@Scribbles Nice, thanks for the tip, didn’t know that one. I reread this one every couple of years or so (am due another, it’s also only short:) - and yes, like you say ‘terrifying’, is very apt (he’s good:) - how to get beyond ‘Noise’s’ concept of ‘use-time’ has been a longstanding preoccupation. Recent’ish interview with him said that the 21stC is African, not Chinese, because Africa has all the best tunes. A dude too

@Scribbles Nice, thanks for the tip, didn’t know that one. I reread this one every couple of years or so (am due another, it’s also only short:) - and yes, like you say ‘terrifying’, is very apt (he’s good:) - how to get beyond ‘Noise’s’ concept of ‘use-time’ has been a long-standing preoccupation. Recent’ish interview with him said that the 21stC is African, not Chinese, mainly because Africa has all the best tunes. A dude too

@julian Wow. Thanks for turning me on to that book. It is really no surprise he has written on that topic. Terrifying, but then again everything seems terrifying nowadays. I’m optimistic it means we are on the cusp of something great, but humanity must act. I’m happy to see so many bright minds in the Aragon community:fidgetspinner:

@Scribbles Maybe we could host a BookClubDAO - Contemporary Critical Theory & its Practical Applications for Distributed Ledger Technologies - always liked a zingy title me 😂 (+ of course have so much spare time on my hands:) - do let me know if you start reading it🦉

@julian @julian I am just an amateur trying to read more books again. If you want to teach me how to code maybe we can start a DAO😜 -The book has absolutely made it on to my list, I am looking forward to reading it when the time comes. I’ll inform you.

@julian I am just an amateur trying to read more books again. If you want to teach me how to code maybe we can start a DAO😜 -The book has absolutely made it on to my list, I am looking forward to reading it when the time comes. I’ll inform you.

@Scribbles Happy to carve out some space (couple of hours maybe?) next week to go through setting up a testnet DAO - we could document it for the Coop if you don’t mind…

@Scribbles Happy to carve out some space (couple of hours maybe?) next week to go through setting up a testnet DAO - we could document it for the Coop, if you don’t mind…

p.s. words are code too - you’re already hacking 👻

@Scribbles Happy to carve out some space (couple of hours maybe?) next week to go through setting up a testnet DAO - we could document it for the Coop, if you don’t mind…?

@julian Sure I don’t see why not, how can I help?

@Scribbles Thanks. You’d help by us going through the process of setting up a rinkeby test dao, and we’ll make note of questions, painpoints and any confusion - and turn that into shareable documentation. Ideally, I think a couple of hours, maybe in one go, would do it. Watcha reckon? :nerd:

“social innovation – understood as organizations’ capacity to generate novel ideas, ways and means of doing things, of addressing public and social problems of many kinds.” free pdf: https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/e/9781315158020

@julian This sounds like a great way to familiarize myself with Aragon:aragon: and learn something new🤓

@Scribbles cool - maybe dm me some availability and we can take it from there…

‘the launch of the institute for the cooperative digital economy’: https://ww2.newschool.edu/pressroom/pressreleases/2019/platformcoop2019.htm?fbclid=IwAR1Ol2uPZEvd1HeFhFgu0DEpmvXM6fKEJbtqxaIyIpdwCUBPjZf-RdjGGoE

Interesting project – ‘the launch of the institute for the cooperative digital economy’: https://ww2.newschool.edu/pressroom/pressreleases/2019/platformcoop2019.htm?fbclid=IwAR1Ol2uPZEvd1HeFhFgu0DEpmvXM6fKEJbtqxaIyIpdwCUBPjZf-RdjGGoE

“A global community sharing knowledge and stories about public participation and democratic innovations”

https://participedia.net/

Hi! We executed yesterday a finance vote within our DAO (yay!) and noticed that the quorum was pretty low. I wonder if that might had been a misconfiguration on our side or if it’s a bug/feature within Bella. Anyone can share some insights? ccing @pmp our evil DAO mastermind

hi, just ignore previous message, for some reason at some point I believe that vote was “executed”, even though it was just saying “Current outcome”. Long days 😅

haha

Hey guys, just wondering, what are your thoughts on DAO governance based on peer to peer review?
The best example I’ve seen so far is Valve, the game developer company and Steam creators
https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/apps/valve/Valve_NewEmployeeHandbook.pdf (see page 26)
Pros:

• It saves time. You don’t have to vote for an action to be taken. First you do, then you get reviewed
  Cons:
• The rating process can be quite time consuming
• As a member of the organization you have a lot of responsibilities and have to be trusted by your peers

Has this been discussed before? Do you know about projects working peer to peer review on the blockchain?

@turupawn that seems similar to Colony’s Dispute System, where users can generally “ask for forgiveness rather than permission” and create tasks on-demand without a vote, leaving the possibility for someone to raise a dispute later. I think there are good reasons to require certain actions to have a large number of members approve (such as changing permissions, or spending a large amount of funds) but it’s entirely possible in Aragon to give certain individuals or groups a budget that they can spend at will, then if people later decide they are doing a bad job they can revoke the budget and redirect the funds.

@turupawn that seems similar to Colony’s Dispute System, where users can generally “ask for forgiveness rather than permission” and create tasks on-demand without a vote, leaving the possibility for someone to raise a dispute later. I think there are good reasons to require certain actions to have a large number of members approve (such as changing permissions, or spending a large amount of funds) but it’s entirely possible in Aragon to give certain individuals or groups a budget that they can spend at will, then if people later decide they are doing a bad job they can revoke the budget and redirect the funds (same for any other permissions).

This is of interest – “dOrg is now the first legally established Decentralized Autonomous Organization (DAO) under United States law.” https://dorg.tech/#/ (it’s daostack [& I think MIT http://law.mit.edu/BBLLC] btw)