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|15:01:07||galego||metaphysics can be mind blowing when the right people touch it|
In reply to @botnetcat:matrix.orgI develop machines for analytic chemistry... their task is to measure and abstract reality to nice electronic values
|15:03:21||galego||you touch a lot of epistemology while doing that either conciously or uncounciously but in the end you produce a machine that produces knowledge|
|15:08:35||@botnetcat:matrix.org||I can imagine hehe|
|15:10:35||@botnetcat:matrix.org||I think finding different ways to create and organize values is in general a very productive basis for philosophy|
|15:11:26||@botnetcat:matrix.org||because you avoid the unanswerable question of what actually is all together|
|15:11:36||@botnetcat:matrix.org||* because you avoid the unanswerable question of what actually is all together|
|15:14:56||@botnetcat:matrix.org||you simply define new variables and look for patterns in them, in fact creating a new "truth"|
|15:15:47||@botnetcat:matrix.org||you could say that in a way, these radical feminists you're talking about are doing the same thing haha|
|15:16:52||@botnetcat:matrix.org||they established the pattern "male oppression", and define their entire universe with it|
|15:19:47||@botnetcat:matrix.org||they do produce knowledge and they do in fact enrich humanity with a new truth|
|15:27:54||@botnetcat:matrix.org||which is all very much in line with Quine|
|15:28:21||@botnetcat:matrix.org||but matrix is terribly slow for me rn, I'll come back later|
|15:32:22||galego||lately it is slow... I would state that there is a difference between electrically reading out chemical values (and knowing of all the shortcomings of this approach) and reducing something as multifacet as interhuman relationship to just one aspect (and think of this as actually enriching)|
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In reply to @volhard:matrix.orgWell I might say that this question is simply false.
You see the nature of the "why" claims that there is a conscious creature behind the existence of the universe which is a loaded question to say the least.
But if you replace the "why" with a "how" then and only then you start makjng sense.
And the answer to the question how the universe was created is a cosmological phenomena that we named "the big bang" in whuch all matter burst of one point of near infinite mass and energy. And this claim was proved by constant observation of the universal microwaves background and measurement of inflation.
In reply to @volhard:matrix.orgAs for the other question of existing. I think all that is what exist.
In pure physics terms nothing does not exist as every part of space holds matter and dark matter which both have properties that influence their surroundings all to the poibt where the nothing is actually something
|15:02:35||@snarky_dog:matrix.org||May I suggest lawrence Krauss book "why is there something rather than nothing" to clear out the confusion|