| 20 Feb 2023 |
 duncan-nz | @room so who is active here? I'm working on a presentation about FLOSS to some permaculture student and would love to chat. | 20:21:02 |
 Arthur Nanni | Hi. Let me know what is FLOSS.
Maybe we can chat. | 23:50:58 |
| 21 Feb 2023 |
| duncan-nz | Free/Libre & Open Source Software | 07:25:29 |
 Source96 | Redacted or Malformed Event | 07:28:22 |
| duncan-nz | Download Det praktisk.odp | 07:35:11 |
| duncan-nz | Do you use and know about FLOSS for permaculture? Attached is what I have so far - or do you have time for a quick screen-share? | 07:35:54 |
| duncan-nz | Here are two project you might find interesting https://www.natureworks.org.uk/classes/ & https://www.opensourceecology.org/ | 07:36:48 |
| duncan-nz | I'm in the CET timezone, Copenhagen. What about you? | 07:37:14 |
| duncan-nz | Arkoprovo Ghosh: - I guess I'm chatting with you now. I didn't even notice who replied, I was just surprised to see a reply. Hi there. | 07:38:45 |
| duncan-nz | Oh shit, I just realised it's all in Danish ... well, I'm happy to give you a quick presentation to see what questions you might have. | 07:40:17 |
| Arthur Nanni | In reply to @dunlit:matrix.org
Free/Libre & Open Source Software We are talking about the same thing. I know as FOSS. | 12:15:35 |
| Arthur Nanni | In reply to @dunlit:matrix.org
Do you use and know about FLOSS for permaculture? Attached is what I have so far - or do you have time for a quick screen-share? I use and spred permaculture at university only with FLOSS. | 12:16:36 |
| Arthur Nanni | In reply to @dunlit:matrix.org
I'm in the CET timezone, Copenhagen. What about you? I am in southern Brazil and work in a university teaching and developing education resources aiming to popularize permaculture.
Our website at university - http://permacultura.ufsc.br/?lang=en
Brazilian Permaculture Study Groups - linked to public education institutions - https://redepermacultura.ufsc.br/ (open in Chrome and translate in real time) | 12:22:11 |
| Arthur Nanni | In reply to @dunlit:matrix.org
Do you use and know about FLOSS for permaculture? Attached is what I have so far - or do you have time for a quick screen-share? * I use and spread permaculture at university only with FLOSS. | 12:23:12 |
| Arthur Nanni | In reply to @dunlit:matrix.org
I'm in the CET timezone, Copenhagen. What about you? * I am in southern Brazil and work in a university teaching and developing education resources aiming to popularize permaculture.
Our website at university - http://permacultura.ufsc.br/?lang=en
Brazilian Permaculture Study Groups Network - linked to public education institutions - https://redepermacultura.ufsc.br/ (open in Chrome and translate in real time) | 12:24:03 |
| duncan-nz | Thanks! Are there any free resources relevant to a presentation of how/why use CAD & FOSS? Even just some sample files for the usual FOSS tools. I'd love some nice graphics for these slides. | 13:46:34 |
| duncan-nz | I'm trying to introduce Excalidraw, QCAD/LibreCAD, QGIS, Inkscape | 13:47:41 |
| Arthur Nanni | In reply to @dunlit:matrix.org
Thanks! Are there any free resources relevant to a presentation of how/why use CAD & FOSS? Even just some sample files for the usual FOSS tools. I'd love some nice graphics for these slides. I developed QGIS | 15:09:46 |
| Arthur Nanni | In reply to @dunlit:matrix.org
Thanks! Are there any free resources relevant to a presentation of how/why use CAD & FOSS? Even just some sample files for the usual FOSS tools. I'd love some nice graphics for these slides. * I have some experience with QGIS and Inkscape applied to permaculture.
To make video-classes we are using Flowblade, Jitsi, OBS and Inkscape.
For landscape reading - QGIS, https://www.suncalc.org/, Google Earth
Book - Using Wordpress with a book theme - https://redepermacultura.ufsc.br/ensinandopermacultura/ | 15:22:14 |
| Arthur Nanni | * I have some experience with QGIS and Inkscape applied to permaculture.
To make video-classes we are using Flowblade, Jitsi, OBS and Inkscape.
For landscape reading - QGIS, https://www.suncalc.org/, Google Earth
Book - Using Wordpress with a book theme - https://redepermacultura.ufsc.br/ensinandopermacultura/
PERMA Journal - OJS - https://periodicos.unipampa.edu.br/index.php/PERMA/index, LibreOffice for article formmating.
As a geologist I prefer GIS instead CAD apps. | 15:25:06 |
| duncan-nz | Arthur Nanni: GIS over CAD, agree totally. But these are more hobby permaculturalists. So I think that me even introducing them to GIS might be a new concept. Thanks for the link. If you also have one of water flow analysis that would be great. In party of the osarch.org project and trained in architecture so what I know is CAD & BIM | 16:58:05 |
| Arthur Nanni | In reply to @dunlit:matrix.org
Arthur Nanni: GIS over CAD, agree totally. But these are more hobby permaculturalists. So I think that me even introducing them to GIS might be a new concept. Thanks for the link. If you also have one of water flow analysis that would be great. In party of the osarch.org project and trained in architecture so what I know is CAD & BIM Perfect. I agree we need to consider "hobby" status. For this reason we adopted Google Earth for classes.
Here, follow a link explining how to analyse flow direction in QGIS - https://youtu.be/H7L8Vc0uIhQ | 18:19:06 |
| 22 Feb 2023 |
| duncan-nz | thanks for your help. by the way what does the 'Q' in QGIS stand for? | 16:38:20 |
| Arthur Nanni | In reply to @dunlit:matrix.org
thanks for your help. by the way what does the 'Q' in QGIS stand for? The source was Quantum, but copyright questions demanded the change in name. | 16:56:17 |
| Arthur Nanni | The equivalent to osarch in GIS - https://www.osgeo.org/ | 16:58:14 |
| duncan-nz | We've discussed often in osarch why OSGeo is so strong but an equivalent for AEC never really happened until a bunch of us started two years ago. Do you have thoughts on this? We have two mean ideas. 1: GIS is overwhelmingly dealing with public data so the case for openness (and as a natural consequence open data & FLOSS) was clearer. 2: GIS is fundamentally data based in the education system, while AEC has a lot of legacy hand sketching luddites in education. What do you think? | 18:50:05 |
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| Arthur Nanni | Redacted or Malformed Event | 22:59:08 |
| Arthur Nanni | I guess that both are correct. I add one more. The FOSS4GIS are much more time developed than AEC and have robust tools to "fight" against proprietary softwares.
In Brazil we inverted the preponderance of ArcGIS in 2017, after efforts of translation team to became QGIS more friendly. It works! Now QGIS is taught in universities and requested by enterprises.
I guess that AEC are very stuck into "formal" market mainly in the "developed world". The same happens with QGIS. USA and Japan uses mainly ArcGIS instead QGIS.
In "developing countries" the budget is limited and professionals need to run to other alternatives. If the alternative is robust, why not to use?
My opinion.
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