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|arosp||I mention here as we lack - odd - a #data or #data-access channel (meant as data availability). I think we should add. Not all is on PDS or PSA (or GSF), and some stuff is on Zenodo (try to look for e.g. “Mars”, you find things, but with high noise in the search results….). Probably the same for Figshare. Most very recent papers have some sort of (mandatory-ish) data repository somewhere associated, but some don’t. #data-discovery is also a possible channel / sub-channel . Some colleague asked me “where are data on valley networks?” . I recalled the data from Brian Hynek and that they were somewhere either on PDS Geosciences or USGS, but they are not linked not searchable anywhere (BTW, WUSTL used to have non-pds data, I think some from fcalef and Klaus Gwinner , too), are they still around? I don’t seem to find them anymore (I did not look for them for years). Anyway, things such as ftp://pdsimage2.wr.usgs.gov/pub/pigpen/mars/channels/ can be still useful but not all is discoverable thare , even googling based on (mis)trust of my memory…. I also realise that the paper of galemanno points to OPM, but acesssing (and to start with, finding) would be something interesting for several.||13:40:33|
In reply to@_slack_openplanetary_U04CXH18V:matrix.orgThia was a bit also one of the ideas behind https://meetingorganizer.copernicus.org/EPSC2018/EPSC2018-677-1.pdf but in general as easy as it is to find references on google scholar (also preprints show up) it is not for datasets attached to publications ... Like derived datasets (at yesterday Pss webinar at dps I was mentioning as an example one paper from jpmul and the companion data on ESA Gsf it's not always that easy and even in this case, i did know about it there is no data discovery for it
In reply to@_slack_openplanetary_U04CXH18V:matrix.orgAstropedia of usgs has a nice interface and functionality (and dataset metadata ) but it does cover usgs only
In reply to@_slack_openplanetary_U04CXH18V:matrix.orgThis is related to the concept of a Data Clearinghouse (Beyer et al 2018), but nothing has been created, and I haven't figured out how to get something like it funded. A channel would be okay, but I think this kind of "request" for where anyone knows where some kind of data is, is also relevant for #open-planetary:matrix.org.
In reply to@_slack_openplanetary_U5V8N9WMV:matrix.orgI think something like that in the EU could be around or under OpenAire
In reply to@_slack_openplanetary_U04CXH18V:matrix.orgrbeyer yes #open-planetary:matrix.org is good to ask, but i meant a channel to discuss this sort of data discovery (particularly linked to publications as other data discovery is already taken care by archives or VO or alike ).
In reply to@_slack_openplanetary_U04E55F4Z:matrix.orgok, but - say - each journal has a mapping of papers:datasets (and any machine with access to the full text). those could be entries (if geospatial) somewhere in an index (I am not sure if CSW is the answer). Most, I fear, as long as data are provided, are OK (it’s already a good thing to have any data available…). In any case, when you mention universities, and agencies, or institutions, they can have an active role yes, but say existing data archives or journals or data journals have already valuable data that people might be interested to use but not necessarily find so easily One thing that they do nicely in Earth Science is pangea.de that has a matching journal, I think Earth System Data of Copernicus). It’s a complex problem, but to start with, for geospatial data (say raster images used in a paper, or vector). even just based on their location (centroid, even just) , would be a start.
In reply to@_slack_openplanetary_U04CXH18V:matrix.organyway, based on the above thare rbeyer perhaps a #data-discovery channel would be OK 😉
|thare||pangea.de reminds me of what dataone.org and USGS's own ScienceBase (which have continued to look at for our needs -- but S.B. continues to be tough for planetary). This a great data portal example supporting APIs to allow for harvest. Interesting, Pangea has their own metadata standard (although perhaps based on DataCite metadata). Their API is also not OGC but The Open Archives Initiative Protocol for Metadata Harvesting (OAI-PMH) "is a protocol developed by the Open Archives Initiative. It can be used to harvest (or collect) the metadata descriptions of PANGAEA so that services (like data portals) can be built." Need to look into that.||16:58:16|
In reply to@_slack_openplanetary_U04E55F4Z:matrix.orgBTW, I tried to forgo the walled-garden that is Slack and head over to the OP Forum, but you all pulled me back in! 😉 So yes data-discovery sounds good.
In reply to@_slack_openplanetary_U04E55F4Z:matrix.orgOk then I can pull you also on that newly created channel.. ;-) and yes we should go outside the walls too
|arosp||thare. But those i knew maybe have retired||17:05:59|