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 jsbillings | Will using btrfs on my laptop murder cause my laptop to explode, or merely catch on fire? | 17:29:40 |
| jsbillings | * Will using btrfs on my laptop cause my laptop to explode, or merely catch on fire? | 17:29:56 |
 music | In reply to @jsbillings:fedora.im
Will using btrfs on my laptop cause my laptop to explode, or merely catch on fire? It’s been the default since Fedora 33. I would expect it to just quietly work. | 17:33:57 |
| music | But you never know with laptops and thermal events. 🚒 | 17:34:46 |
 knurpht - Gertjan | In reply to @jsbillings:fedora.im
Will using btrfs on my laptop cause my laptop to explode, or merely catch on fire? Yes. But thanks to btrfs it will keep burning for at least 25 years, so not too bad at all. | 17:38:56 |
| jsbillings | judging from the way people complain about btrfs being so terrible, I just assume it will just spontaneously explode if I put the laptop down too hard. | 17:41:01 |
| jsbillings | (I've been deploying laptops with btrfs for about a year now, and have been very happy) | 17:41:20 |
| jsbillings | just a little over 2500 devices so far | 17:42:36 |
 SFaulken | in well over a decade of using btrfs, I've yet to have a data loss, that wasn't self inflicted | 17:46:44 |
 nirik | I had data loss with btrfs... but it was like 6+ years ago. ;) | 17:52:21 |
 Damien | my ssd don't like btrfs, I tried it in opensuse too and always high CPU usage | 18:08:34 |
| Damien | I'll try btrfs again on a new hardware | 18:08:57 |
 Angelo | Hi everyone. I have a question regarding Fedora Workstation: is a recovery btrfs snapshot automatically taken every time an update is performed? | 19:05:23 |
| jsbillings | no | 19:19:44 |
| jsbillings | if you want something like that, something like Silverblue might be a better OS | 19:20:00 |
| jsbillings | while I know there are some tools to do this, it's not part of the Fedora install | 19:20:13 |
| Angelo | In reply to @jsbillings:fedora.im
if you want something like that, something like Silverblue might be a better OS Thanks for your feedback
I found this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BtrfsWithFullSystemSnapshots#:~:text=When%20users%20select%20Btrfs%20for,boot%20into%20for%20recovery%20purposes. Yes I know Timeshift software that can do this. But I don't like it because it's not graphically consistent with GNOME. It's strange that for a system as cutting-edge as Fedora, no such out-of-the-box implementation was thought of. | 20:07:12 |
| 20 Apr 2024 |
 Farchord [Fedora] | In reply to @odi-3:fedora.im
Thanks for your feedback
I found this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BtrfsWithFullSystemSnapshots#:~:text=When%20users%20select%20Btrfs%20for,boot%20into%20for%20recovery%20purposes. Yes I know Timeshift software that can do this. But I don't like it because it's not graphically consistent with GNOME. It's strange that for a system as cutting-edge as Fedora, no such out-of-the-box implementation was thought of. Timeshift works fine, but the distro has to use Ubuntu's partitioning scheme. If they don't (And we don't), then you'll have a hard time. | 01:00:42 |
| Angelo | In reply to @farchord:matrix.org
Timeshift works fine, but the distro has to use Ubuntu's partitioning scheme. If they don't (And we don't), then you'll have a hard time. As mentioned Timeshift is not an option for me. I would like something better integrated with the system. snapper seems like a great solution, but it would be better if it was configured upstream and was out-of-the-box for the end user. | 07:29:41 |
 T.Ester | In reply to @odi-3:fedora.im
As mentioned Timeshift is not an option for me. I would like something better integrated with the system. snapper seems like a great solution, but it would be better if it was configured upstream and was out-of-the-box for the end user. If you're not bound to btrfs snapshots then backintime (with the backintime-qt front end) might be an option for you; it's operating file (or folder) wise and uses rsync for synchronisation. Backintime also offers a root-mode that could be used for making (and restoring) system folders backups. | 12:40:14 |
| Angelo | In reply to @newbeelike:fedora.im
If you're not bound to btrfs snapshots then backintime (with the backintime-qt front end) might be an option for you; it's operating file (or folder) wise and uses rsync for synchronisation. Backintime also offers a root-mode that could be used for making (and restoring) system folders backups. My filesystem is a btrfs. Thank you for the suggestion. I would like to take this opportunity to ask wich is the right room in Matrix to suggest this out-of-the-box implementation to developers. In my opinion it shouldn't be too complicated to implement; distributions like Manjaro and others already do this. | 14:04:44 |
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