| 10 Jan 2024 |
 karmacolorcat | DUDE EXACTLY | 22:28:24 |
| karmacolorcat | LMFAOOOOO | 22:28:27 |
| karmacolorcat | I WAS JUST GOING TO CALL OMNITRIX ON THAT ONE | 22:28:42 |
 Spooky Detective Lucario | And then when she crashed, I personally think she might have just straight up unable to after the crash. | 22:28:50 |
 genghiskombat | ...I mean, "cooldown" would strangely enough fix that particular ZM problem rather nicely, while also explaining why she doesn't lose the suit in other high-stress situations (aside from Other M, but frankly, those parts of Other M can suck my dong). | 22:28:54 |
 monody | LOL Old Bird and Grey Voice put a play time limit on her suit. | 22:29:11 |
| genghiskombat | That said, it would also cheapen the "fully powered" suit she gets in the ruins, as the whole point of that is her getting a Power Suit better than the one she had before. | 22:29:36 |
| genghiskombat | Like, it could still work logically, but...it doesn't feel as special, y'know? | 22:29:57 |
| monody | Samus handles stress well. It's when things get uncomfortably close to her and her past that she's vulnerable. | 22:30:09 |
| karmacolorcat | I dont think it's that difficult to piece together
I dont call "stress point" as Samus being mentally distressed in any way, but rather the Suit reaching a stress point of sorts | 22:30:16 |
| karmacolorcat | like ACs condensers shutting down when the room reaches the specificed temperature | 22:30:51 |
| karmacolorcat | Think about it, with this, the suit shutting down at the end of a mission sounds logical | 22:31:21 |
| genghiskombat | Look, all I'm saying is that her losing the suit because Adam hit her in the back with a bootlegged Ice Beam shot was the absolute height of stupidity (both in surrounding context and the action itself), and that there were much better ways they could have rendered Samus vulnerable for the purposes of those cutscenes. | 22:31:26 |
| karmacolorcat | not debating you on that one | 22:31:39 |
| monody | Yeah that scene is stupid and contrived.
I don't have a problem with the Ridley scene though, unlike seemingly most Metroid fans. | 22:32:12 |
| karmacolorcat | And this is where I feel obliged to talk about the "Samus was actually terrified of the Space Pirates during her first mission until she got the upgraded suit" | 22:32:31 |
| karmacolorcat | * And this is where I feel obliged to talk about the "Samus was actually terrified of the Space Pirates during her first mission until she got the upgraded suit" headcanon | 22:32:34 |
| genghiskombat | The whole "oh, she needs to concentrate out the wazoo to maintain that thing" explanation Sakamoto gave us is frankly dumb, full-stop, no two ways about it. At best, it's an ass-pull he came up with under pressure that wasn't very well thought-out. At worst, he somehow actually believes we'd buy that bunk, which would have...more serious implications. | 22:32:59 |
| monody | I actually love the visual of activation and deactivation waves cascading through the suit as she tries desperately to hold it together. | 22:33:04 |
| karmacolorcat | I dont get the hate on the Ridley scene
Granted, the scene could've been saved if they specified why Samus was panicking at all (and better it not be because of her past, but the fact Ridley somehow came back AGAIN and she didnt know why or how) | 22:33:57 |
| monody | In my headcanon it's not concentration but composure that's necessary, as the suit has safety mechanisms in it to prevent abuse by someone unstable. | 22:34:17 |
| genghiskombat | Somebody should have put those mechanisms in Raven Beak's suit, lol | 22:34:48 |
| monody | Heh. I doubt the Mawkin would have something like that at all. Seems more like a Thoha thing. | 22:35:28 |
| genghiskombat | Lol, well to be fair, we're assuming the Mawkin were high on that "hadar sen olmen" kush prior to his reign, and in the exact same "screw you, our guns are bigger" way that he is. I still think they had a more...reasonable outlook on the importance of power before he got the position. | 22:36:32 |
| genghiskombat | E.g., "we make ourselves as strong as we can be for the sake of protecting our people," as opposed to flat-out "might makes right." | 22:37:10 |
| monody | Yeah but they were never the pacifist philosophers the Thoha were. (That and their armor tech seems a few generations behind…) | 22:37:26 |
| genghiskombat | Oh, their armor tech is clearly just a case of Raven Beak hoarding the good stuff, either out of nepotism, a concern for what an X-cloned Chozo could do with the full package, or both. | 22:38:07 |
| monody | It's effective, but I don't think it's anywhere near as sophisticated as Samus's suit.
It seems to be made of real, physical matter for one thing. | 22:39:00 |
| genghiskombat | Philosophy-wise, though, I do think they had a certain "code" of their own regarding how they conducted themselves. It was probably just much more in-line with a warrior's code of honor, as opposed to Thoha-brand "contemplate our navels" stuff. | 22:39:29 |
| karmacolorcat | I got lost | 22:40:22 |
