| 10 Jan 2024 |
 monody | Well we don't see her obtaining a new suit, so yeah it was off-screen. | 22:59:13 |
 genghiskombat | So whatever changes it has to have happened between Prime 1 and Hunters...so, between when she leaves Tallon IV and when she gets word of the whole "Ultimate Power" jebait... | 22:59:17 |
 karmacolorcat | anyways, breathing manually means that you breathe by being conscious of the action of breathing, like focusing yourself on that as opposed to doing it subconsciously | 22:59:17 |
| genghiskombat | Yeah, I know, Karma. I still fail to see the relevance. | 22:59:29 |
| karmacolorcat | F | 22:59:35 |
| karmacolorcat | it's a fancy way to tell someone to calm down | 22:59:57 |
| genghiskombat | ...If you think that was me being nettled, you have not seen me nettled. | 23:00:15 |
| karmacolorcat | not arguing on that | 23:00:41 |
| monody | If I had to come up with an explanation to fit this… I don't know… she found like… a Chozo USB stick with a firmware update on it, and that got corrupted in Prime 3 so she had to roll back. :P | 23:01:04 |
| genghiskombat | When I'm nettled, the automod bot (accursed be its name) groans with frustration, because it means I'm probably going to miss an asterisk somewhere and force it to do its "job," among other things. | 23:01:05 |
| karmacolorcat | The only thing we can all agree in regard of the suits is the fact | 23:02:03 |
| genghiskombat | ...Okay, while I would not accept that word-for-word as canon, I do kind of find the base idea funny...and I think I have a way to spin it. | 23:02:07 |
| karmacolorcat | they are kind of jank | 23:02:08 |
| genghiskombat | So, remember how Metroid Prime, at the end of the game by the same name, yoinks the Phazon Suit right out of Samus? | 23:02:36 |
 abciq | couldnt the suit just be purpose built to be extremely modular, its able to incorporate completely alien (to the chozo) tech, and the zm suit could have been just damaged beyond usability, which has been shown to happen to a lesser degree in prime 1 and 2. | 23:02:51 |
| abciq changed their profile picture. | 23:02:52 |
| genghiskombat | Well, to go back to the operating system metaphor, imagine going deep into the assets for a distribution of Linux and roughshod editing it on the fly to jury-rig it into behaving like an entirely different distribution. | 23:04:00 |
| karmacolorcat | if you want to get fancy about that, I'd argue Prime was yanking the radiation that caused the power suit to turn into the Phazon suit, which explains why it reverts back to Gravity | 23:04:09 |
| karmacolorcat | that would also go in line with how Samus got the Phazon suit in the first place | 23:04:39 |
| karmacolorcat | how that radiation turns into Dark Samus is a whole can of worms in itself | 23:05:10 |
| karmacolorcat | something something DNA something something Suits database something something? | 23:05:28 |
| karmacolorcat | * how that radiation fused with Prime turns into Dark Samus is a whole can of worms in itself | 23:05:47 |
| monody | The Prime is technically Chozo biotech just like the suit, even if heavily corrupted.
It could theoretically be somewhat compatible with suit modules, like how Samus's suit took on anatomical features from the physiological traits in her metroid DNA in Dread. | 23:06:15 |
| karmacolorcat | ... | 23:06:23 |
| karmacolorcat | OKAY that kind of explains everything | 23:06:34 |
| karmacolorcat | also can we talked how the feds manage to engineer a funking Plasma Beam and Power Bombs among other Samus trinkets? | 23:08:04 |
| abciq | yea software updates are a thing for the suit if you look at the reboot screen when it gets hacked by the sanctuary robots, it shows a version number for the software it uses. | 23:08:18 |
| genghiskombat | Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. Whatever Prime screwed up by forcibly removing a suit upgrade as significant as the Phazon Suit (something I doubt the Power Suit was originally designed to handle) had to get "healed" like how Samus's suit heals between Fusion and Dread. The funky shape is a result of that, and probably eventually reverts back either after the events of Prime 3 due to similarly funky Phazon nonsense recovery...or due to something that happens in Prime 4 we haven't seen yet. | 23:08:25 |
| karmacolorcat | You'd think that means they now have the means capable of producing weapons of the same caliber, but I think they solely created Samus-only software while missing the hardware that makes it work | 23:08:57 |
| abciq | * yea software updates seem like a thing for the suit if you look at the reboot screen when it gets hacked by the sanctuary robots, it shows a version number for the software it uses. | 23:09:07 |
