| 26 Jul 2024 |
 Orange Bomb | Everyone gets that anyway. | 18:19:46 |
 Charadon | That was 2 years ago, so I have no idea if that's fixed | 18:19:50 |
 chaykin | yup:) | 18:19:51 |
| Charadon | I haven't gotten that error in ages on my homeserver | 18:20:08 |
| Charadon | Still have no idea why matrix didn't just use OTR or OMEMO | 18:20:43 |
| Orange Bomb | I'm not sure if I want to know why. | 18:21:13 |
| Orange Bomb | The answer may be undesirable. | 18:21:28 |
| Charadon | Ah, I looked it up. It's because OMEMO wasn't compatible with group chats | 18:22:33 |
| Charadon | At the time when Olm (Matrix's encryption) was made | 18:23:25 |
 rbn | i think matrix has made very bad decisions in the last years, prioritizing features over stability or getting a better HS implementation | 19:34:27 |
| rbn | also they shouldn't have pushed for being an IRC replacement for giant channels. matrix is great for smallish channels and private messenger use, but giant channels are killing almost every server. | 19:35:40 |
 Feeds | New post in Slackware64 -current: 9 updates | 20:00:25 |
| Orange Bomb | In reply to @rbn:orgizm.net
also they shouldn't have pushed for being an IRC replacement for giant channels. matrix is great for smallish channels and private messenger use, but giant channels are killing almost every server. I don't think it should be pushed as a replacement for anything but perhaps Discord at the moment, but they've got enough hubris to say they want to replace e-mail. Absolute madness. | 20:20:29 |
| rbn | In reply to @orangebomb:poa.st
I don't think it should be pushed as a replacement for anything but perhaps Discord at the moment, but they've got enough hubris to say they want to replace e-mail. Absolute madness. oh, i use it as personal messenger with some people and for some smallish channels like this one and it's nice for that. | 20:23:21 |
 Mistress Remilia (local mom) | A replacement for Discord I can halfway understand, as that's what I used it for, and it's worked out mostly fine | 20:23:24 |
| rbn | some things are nice, like history when offline etc. which doesn't really work well with IRC | 20:23:55 |
| Mistress Remilia (local mom) | History when offline is pretty big for me | 20:24:11 |
| rbn | but matrix seems best for 1:1 chats and small groupchats like for businesses | 20:24:37 |
| rbn | i have to admid that i'm pretty disenchanted about computer stuff in general. somehow in 2024 i can do about the same things as in 2004 only that things require 100x more cpu cycles xD | 20:26:10 |
| rbn | (and more shitty in many cases) | 20:26:25 |
| Mistress Remilia (local mom) | yeah I think about that a lot | 20:26:56 |
| Mistress Remilia (local mom) | And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklaus_Wirth#Wirth's_law | 20:27:11 |
| Mistress Remilia (local mom) | * And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law | 20:27:26 |
| rbn | the only thing that got really better is network speeds | 20:37:01 |
| rbn | it's nice to have fast internet instead of 64kbit/s and working wifi | 20:38:00 |
| Feeds | New post in Slackware AArch64 -current: 13 updates | 22:00:58 |
| Charadon | In reply to @remiliascarlet:nanako.mooo.com
History when offline is pretty big for me Even XMPP struggles with this =P | 22:27:21 |
| Charadon | For me, the biggest thing is multi-device support. In IRC, you can't be on multiple devices at the same time without some proxy bullshit | 22:29:26 |
| Charadon | And 2nd biggest is federation. | 22:30:40 |
 Slacktoid | In reply to @remiliascarlet:nanako.mooo.com
And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law its nice to be able to put names to the problems we are facing | 22:41:28 |
