| 5 Mar 2024 |
 Muntashir Akon | In reply to @sennin78:matrix.org
Hi I would like to suggest to have the Interceptor not enabled by default đđ with the best intention to make the app less trouble for everyone I am recommending it to . thank you Sorry, never going to happen. Interceptor is one of the most important features that many people simply do not use because they donât understand it. | 16:36:32 |
| Muntashir Akon | In reply to @db9:matrix.org
Using 4.0 alpha, the coming installer upgrade, apkm>apks, how about splits? Currently the installer installs all the splits. Apps are heavier like that. It does not select all the splits. It only selects the relevant ones based on your device specs. | 16:47:37 |
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 DB9 | In reply to @muntashir:matrix.org
It does not select all the splits. It only selects the relevant ones based on your device specs. But when I install with system installer it only installs lib/arm64-v8, but with AppManager installs x86, x64 and arm-v7 | 20:01:17 |
| DB9 | Another thing in the latest debug, freezing an app doesn't stop the app, at least some apps doesn't stop when freezing | 20:02:55 |
 § | Freeze & Force stop have different meanings. Meaning of Freeze defined in Settings > Rules > Default freezing method. | 20:08:20 |
| 6 Mar 2024 |
 ⯠Ⱐá âł 7 á á ០០á ០8 ⶠá ⷠ⯠| In reply to @muntashir:matrix.org
Sorry, never going to happen. Interceptor is one of the most important features that many people simply do not use because they donât understand it. Ok, that is still good to know. I am still grateful for all the hard work put into the App. thank you | 02:36:10 |
| Muntashir Akon | In reply to @db9:matrix.org
But when I install with system installer it only installs lib/arm64-v8, but with AppManager installs x86, x64 and arm-v7 System installer does not install split APKs. Not sure what youâre talking about. When you install split APKs, App Manager will display a list of splits along with the options to select or deselect them. | 02:48:09 |
| Muntashir Akon | In reply to @db9:matrix.org
Another thing in the latest debug, freezing an app doesn't stop the app, at least some apps doesn't stop when freezing In addition, system apps can bypass everything. | 02:50:22 |
| DB9 | Ok thanks | 08:57:33 |
| DB9 | In reply to @muntashir:matrix.org
System installer does not install split APKs. Not sure what youâre talking about. When you install split APKs, App Manager will display a list of splits along with the options to select or deselect them. By splits I mean bundles. The stuff when open an apk in lib folder there is folders and files for arm64-v8, arm-v7, x86 and x64. System installer installs only the folder and files corresponding the system but app manager installs all the folders and files. Installing only the corresponding folder and files can significantly reduce the size of the app and make it more lighter and faster when running it | 09:02:23 |
| DB9 | Dex2oath optimizing when applying to a list of apps if it encounters a problem with an app it stops processing the list rather than skip the app | 16:20:05 |
| 7 Mar 2024 |
| Muntashir Akon | In reply to @db9:matrix.org
By splits I mean bundles. The stuff when open an apk in lib folder there is folders and files for arm64-v8, arm-v7, x86 and x64. System installer installs only the folder and files corresponding the system but app manager installs all the folders and files. Installing only the corresponding folder and files can significantly reduce the size of the app and make it more lighter and faster when running it I think you mean universal APK files here which support every platforms, therefore, contain every platform binaries and other resources. App Manager has no control over how these files are extracted since they are determined by the system in accordance with the values declared in the manifest of the app. App Manager can only control the configuration of the split APKs (APKS/XAPK/APKM or simple a zip of APKs). | 06:12:06 |
| Muntashir Akon | In reply to @db9:matrix.org
Dex2oath optimizing when applying to a list of apps if it encounters a problem with an app it stops processing the list rather than skip the app I shall look into this. | 06:12:31 |
| 15 Mar 2024 |
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| 19 Mar 2024 |
| § | In reply to @muntashir:matrix.org
Both GitHub and Google Play arenât safe from the possibility of introducing new malware at a later update. IzzyOnDroid, on the other hand, has a better way to handle such issues, though I believe it needs more improvements and transparency (we, for example, do not know how it ensures the APKs downloaded from GitHub are indeed from GitHub). All in all, IzzyOnDroid is the best way to download APK files right now. If the app is available on F-Droid official, only the reproducible builds maybe trusted (but, unfortunately, thereâs no way to distinguish between them). > we don't know how it ensures the APKs downloaded from GitHub are indeed from GH
What's the best approach here? Calculate the file hash & show on izzy site? | 09:10:33 |
| § | Signature verification already there is it not enough for transparency? | 09:24:08 |
| § | * Signature verification already there is it not enough for transparency?
[https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/info#security] | 09:26:49 |
| 20 Mar 2024 |
 obersuppenruehrer | Muntashir, I wish you would add a (possibly optional) checkbox to disable apk signing in the install dialog, if auto sign is activated. It is quite inconvenient to run through main settings, and that twice, every time i want to opt out of auto signing for the occasional app. | 21:07:47 |
| 21 Mar 2024 |
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| 24 Mar 2024 |
| Muntashir Akon | In reply to @obersuppenruehrer:matrix.org
Muntashir, I wish you would add a (possibly optional) checkbox to disable apk signing in the install dialog, if auto sign is activated. It is quite inconvenient to run through main settings, and that twice, every time i want to opt out of auto signing for the occasional app. Already available in the alpha release. | 18:44:17 |
| Muntashir Akon | In reply to @shuvashish76:matrix.org
> we don't know how it ensures the APKs downloaded from GitHub are indeed from GH
What's the best approach here? Calculate the file hash & show on izzy site? One way to ensure whether the correct APK files are downloaded is by implementing SSL pinning for the GitHub servers or by IP address validation (GitHub lists all its IP addresses in their docs). Signature verification works only if the last APK is malicious. What if all APKs were malicious, or if itâs a new app? | 18:49:24 |
| 26 Mar 2024 |
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| 27 Mar 2024 |
| § | Is there a limit to show search bar for SAF only if it exceeds certain number of visible granted URIs)? I see search bar for some apps for not all.. is it set to 6 ? | 13:39:13 |
| obersuppenruehrer | Redacted or Malformed Event | 13:47:36 |
| obersuppenruehrer | * In the 4.0 alpha? Where? I am using latest debug version. | 13:48:31 |
| obersuppenruehrer | In reply to @muntashir:matrix.org
Already available in the alpha release. đ”âđ« Facepalm Damn, sorry. Sometimes i don't see the forest for the trees | 13:54:43 |
| § | I don't see them either, my mind always looking for ghosts (in both forest & AM debug) | 13:58:42 |
