In reply to @shuvashish76:matrix.org
Linux for mobile could be an interesting option for old Xiaomi devices.
https://postmarketos.org/ (based on Alpine, the most light-weight Linux distro)

In reply to @obersuppenruehrer:matrix.org
Interesting! They have a build for Nokia N900. That was what I used before the Notes. I loved it. I still have it somewhere, but the battery is dead.... might buy a new one and give this Linux a try.

In reply to @shuvashish76:matrix.org
From what I've seen battery is the biggest issue for linux based mobile operating systems. But Alpine should work fine IDK

In reply to @obersuppenruehrer:matrix.org
I have become completely Stylus/S-Pen dependent after 4 Samsung Galaxy Notes in a row. (I am a large person with clumsy large fingers.) I will probably end up with S24 or S25 Ultra depending how long I keep postponing it. I also have always used microSD cards to carry my music (and ebooks) with me because using cloud storage is very expensive to use here and streaming services all don't have most of my music. But even Samsung Ultras don't have microSD slots anymore.... difficult situation:)

In reply to @muntashir:matrix.org
I brought a Galaxy Note 6 Lite (2024 edition) during the prime day sell for note taking purposes. I was surprised that it didn't have a lot of bloatware that their phones usually have (but even the ones they have were unbearable). Unfortunately, I didn't find any open source apps for taking notes with an S pen. So, I am sticking with the default one.

In reply to @shuvashish76:matrix.org

still justifiable that people do not fully trust the method of signing apks used by F-Droid

There is no point in trusting the apk files from GitHub either. On what basis you'd trust them? You never know 1. if some parts are proprietary (F-Droid build them, now supports reproducible builds), 2. by using obtainium you never verified them using VirusTotal or Pithus as it has no.built in mechanism for it (AM has built in option for both Pithus & VT) 3. never checked what permission they use (izzyrepo check some of them vs F-Droid at least shows general permissions before you download them.

help more people make the transition to open source apps.

Obtainium is great for personal use but it’s the worst one for general users.
Yes F-Droid has issues but unlike F-Droid, it's wrong to assume downloading from GitHub = all FOSS. Fundamentally there is no difference between a sketchy/pirated site & GitHub (the sourciest of source).

I hope AM will handle this in a better way.

In reply to @sennin78:matrix.org
What I had not considered is that there could be parts in a Github app that are proprietary

In reply to @muntashir:matrix.org
GitHub is just a git hosting provider with some additional features. It doesn't care about a project or its license as long as they don't receive a complaint from a third-party. It's up to you to figure out whether an app is FOSS or not. For Android, however, you follow the IzzyOnDroid repo alongside F-Droid official. IzzyOnDroid assigns certain tags to the open source Android apps that allows people to figure out if an app is fully FOSS or not, or what form of proprietary components the app may have.

In reply to @obersuppenruehrer:matrix.org
I have noticed a very odd thing that only happens occasionally. If I use AM to clear data of an app, it works fine. If i then later open the settings of ANY app (not using AM), the settings window will close itself a few seconds later, like it does as if AM opened it. Since this only happens intermittently, this is very hard to log or capture, but I am trying to do so.
I am by no means sure that AM causes it, but it is the only explanation I have so far....

In reply to @sennin78:matrix.org
The method I was using was : First check on Droidify and then I would scroll down to the Links and then I would copy the Github link from that App's Droidify page, and then paste that in Obtainium, but honestly this is a little more complicated than just using Droidify and with what you are saying it makes sense to stay on Droidify

In reply to @muntashir:matrix.org
It's kind of ironic that an app store having so many interesting apps doesn't offer a good UI/UX, and people have to rely on the third-party app stores that aren't always up to date with the latest specs. What prevents the developers from learning from others and develop a good UI/UX for the official F-Droid? It's not like they have to alter any internals to do this.This will require a massive refactoring of the front-end, but is doable in less than three months.

In reply to @sennin78:matrix.org
It seems to be like that for the FLOSiverse , all devs and projects seem to be scattered and disordered, but there are advantages in a decentralized approach like this. I think now is the time for devs to make use of AI to help speed up their developing skills and improving their apps, and even common people now can make their own apps which is another advantage.

In reply to @muntashir:matrix.org
Accessibility?

In reply to @muntashir:matrix.org
This is a form of forced decentralisation. Had the F-Droid official app store been usable, instead of looking for a usable alternative, we'd have been looking for an app store based on our individual taste or ideas. Then, we could've realised the true decentralisation. AI is only good for creating a generic and typical application, such as a note app. It cannot be used to create a specialised app in a reliable manner. The complexity of a specialised app requires a level of expertise that a generic AI can never gain. When you develop such an app, more time is spent on planning and requirements analysis than coding.

In reply to @sennin78:matrix.org
at least we do have Linux being continuously developed 🙏 and that's the one thing I am very grateful for

In reply to @muntashir:matrix.org
Linux is sustaining because there's no alternative (and nobody can come up with any alternative overnight) and it's primary maintainer is Linus who is allowed to practice dictatorship by the corporations. Same is happening with libcurl, another valuable open source library with no alternative. Most other maintainers of popular open source projects have a proprietary business model that allows them to become independent of any financial support from the general public. This latter business model is trending nowadays as this model has a particular demand in certain countries and territories. There are also some non-profit organizations such as F-Droid, Signal, Riseup, or Wikimedia who don't have a particular business model, but still rely largely on the corporate donations. All of these groups can sustain because they have a stable source of funding. Sustainability usually has nothing to do with certain corporations being too hard on open source development (actually, it's equally beneficial for them, so why should they do it?), but has everything to do with funding and maintenance. Without a sufficient funding, projects will never be sustainable, because maintaining a project has cost that maintainers cannot ignore forever. Also, a lot of projects are created to solve a particular problem that the maintainers faced and were willing to solve them and share it with others looking for a solution to the same problem. If the maintainers no longer find an interest in the problem, then even sufficient funding may not be enough to sustain the project.