 | Bitcoin + Alts Discussion | 425 Members |
| A place to discuss the various aspects of Bitcoin and various Crypto Currencies. Nothing in this room should be considered financial or investment advice | 64 Servers |
| Bitcoin + Alts Discussion | 425 Members |
| A place to discuss the various aspects of Bitcoin and various Crypto Currencies. Nothing in this room should be considered financial or investment advice | 64 Servers |
| Sender | Message | Time |
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| 22 Sep 2023 | ||
 TheGoldenDragon | Words can be and sometimes are a personal reflection. I wonder how that guy likes the mirror | 15:54:13 |
 Andrew DeVries | It's a way to redirect the attention away from themselves for that specific thing. Or so they think, because it often comes back to bite them | 16:28:35 |
| 23 Sep 2023 | ||
 John | New episode! Libertarians promote political freedom, but often ignore technology freedom. For example, the main party website LP.org makes 3rd party JavaScript calls to Google and Facebook, visible with the browser extension uBlock Origin. This JavaScript allows these Big Tech firms to do surveillance on behalf of the government and these are the same organizations that suppress pro-freedom speech. Most Libertarian groups such as Mises or Cato are reliant on Democrat-controlled big tech platforms to spread their message and do not teach fundamental decentralized tech infrastructure for resilience against oppression. This video goes over an introduction to Digital Freedom for Libertarians including: 1) Operating systems on the phone and PC 2) Cryptocurrency gift cards & debit cards 3) Decentralized Instant messaging & Email Enjoy: https://video.simplifiedprivacy.com/libertarian101/ | 19:27:10 |
| John | Nice video for beginners. A bit sad he promotes XMPP and Session, rather than Matrix and SimpleX chat. Maybe the guy has his reasons. | 19:28:24 |
 mateusdeap joined the room. | 19:34:39 | |
 HAL9000 | Local energy and water generation and usage in a community space. Not convinced they have heating and cooling efficient infrastructure https://livingbuilding.gatech.edu/ | 19:36:27 |
| HAL9000 | In relation to BTC energy and maybe water usage, used to be seen as a negative, but decentralized systems including money should be a plus | 19:40:46 |
 OatWalker | In reply to @Jinformatique:matrix.orgGreat video | 21:51:44 |
| OatWalker | In reply to @Jinformatique:matrix.orgI've been using Matrix for family chat a few years now. Honestly it has been a bumpy ride. I don't know if Session or XMPP would be a smoother ride but I sometimes wonder if I'm on the right road. | 21:55:11 |
| John | In reply to @waking:matrix.orgDo you self-host the Matrix server, or do you use matrix.org? | 21:55:53 |
| OatWalker | I did for the first year or so after my family moved to Matrix. We moved to matrix.org in the hopes our issues were caused a fault server. They weren't | 21:57:47 |
| OatWalker | * I did for the first year or so after my family moved to Matrix. We moved to matrix.org in the hopes our issues were caused by a miss configured server. They weren't | 21:58:23 |
| OatWalker | * I self hosted for the first year or so after my family moved to Matrix. We moved to matrix.org in the hopes our issues were caused by a miss configured server. They weren't | 21:58:45 |
| OatWalker | By self hosted I mean I paid etke.cc to manage a VPS for me. I didn't want to be responsible for keeping the family commutation infrastructure running 😅 | 22:02:46 |
| OatWalker | * By self hosted I mean I paid etke.cc to manage a VPS for me. I didn't want to be responsible for keeping the family communication infrastructure running 😅 | 22:03:07 |
| OatWalker | Anyways, great video. It's nice to see someone talk more holistically about these issues. Then host those opinions on a sovereign website. 🏅 | 22:04:48 |
| John | Oh ok, I see. Yeah it's a good option not to waste time with maintenance. Do you have some example as for what has been bumpy using matrix? | 22:07:43 |
| OatWalker | Yup give me a bit. I'm about to hop in the shower | 22:09:35 |
| OatWalker | I'm out and finally on a real computer with a keyboard :). The AOSP keyboard is a pain. The main issue has been the message decryption bug. Where a message is delivered but the new ratcheted public key wasn't received, so it remains un-decrypted. That's a painful bug. Sometimes, messages are time sensitive and important, so not being able to rely on your messaging app to actually deliver readable messages is brutal. The second most painful issue is element calls not connecting. I can't count the number of times someone has tried to call me but our connection never gets past "call connecting". Again, a communication tool that's not reliable in communication is frustrating. Then there a dozens of little paper cut issues. Messages posted in the correct timeline only to look back later and see them mixed around on the timeline. Edits to a message not showing up for the other people in chat. Umm... there are other examples I just can't think of them right now. | 22:39:11 |
| John | I did not use it as intensive as you. So I can't compare. My hope is that SimpleX chat will get better with the group redesign and the desktop version coming soon, so I can switch on it fully. | 22:45:52 |
| OatWalker | The hardest part of picking a communications tool to deploy is it's hard to thoroughly test until you've deployed it. I've already moved my family from Matrix to Signal and back to Matrix. So I've used up their patience. | 22:59:57 |
| OatWalker | Session is appealing though because the only real problem we had with Signal is kids don't always have cell phones or phone numbers. In fact I don't think kids should have their own cell phones. | 23:02:16 |
| OatWalker | I want to be clear I don't want to talk anyone out of using Matrix. I think it's one of the most exciting technologies developing right now. It's also the best sovereign home for digital communities to communicate synchronously. I'd hate to think something I said drew someone from the light and onto something like Discord. I think maintaining ownership of our digital communities is essential for a free future. | 23:24:04 |
 ThothLoki | In reply to @waking:matrix.orgI dunno.....you are starting to sound like a Facebook shill 🤣🤣🤣 | 23:40:42 |
| OatWalker | I prefer to be called an advocate 😅 | 23:43:16 |
| ThothLoki | In reply to @waking:matrix.orgLmao | 23:55:44 |
| ThothLoki |  Download 566f03b98fc0bcf5c0238dc3e90fde7e.jpg | 23:56:30 |
| 24 Sep 2023 | ||
| OatWalker |  Download sup_bitcoin_matrix_room.jpg | 00:14:11 |
 Tushar Suresh shah |  Download ima_0531ec8.jpeg | 02:56:06 |
 barking bandicoot | Great talk by Erik Vorhees! https://x.com/Permissionless/status/1702054516458156126?s=20 | 02:59:17 |