| 9 Jan 2023 |
 lukaro | Bad thing is, most Matrix clients are written in JavaScript, which is more demanding than native code. Don't know to what extend that applies to discord as well, at least the desktop version also is JavaScript of course, since it runs in the browser. Don't know to what extend apps contain native code. | 23:51:59 |
| 10 Jan 2023 |
 @cadence:cadence.moe | It's not about the language, it's about the algorithms. | 00:27:24 |
|  @shameelabdulla:matrix.org left the room. | 00:27:43 |
| @cadence:cadence.moe | JavaScript is honestly plenty fast and efficient, if used properly. The Element people aren't using it amazingly. | 00:27:57 |
| @cadence:cadence.moe | I made a proof-of-concept client in JavaScript that has few features but is extremely fast and responsive, while being good looking too. | 00:28:36 |
| @cadence:cadence.moe | In reply to @lukaro:hacknesium.de
I'm mainly switching between element and FluffyChat. Some times, I like one better, then the other. At the moment, element is my preference. Check out https://schildi.chat . For desktop, web, and android. | 00:29:06 |
 fnz | In reply to @cadence:cadence.moe
I made a proof-of-concept client in JavaScript that has few features but is extremely fast and responsive, while being good looking too. Release it, Cadence, don't be shy | 01:10:41 |
| @cadence:cadence.moe | It is. https://gitdab.com/cadence/Carbon | 02:06:32 |
| @cadence:cadence.moe | I planned to develop it further, but gave up | 02:06:54 |
 @austin:tchncs.de | In reply to @cadence:cadence.moe
It is. https://gitdab.com/cadence/Carbon oh there's also https://git.celery.eu.org/tezlm/discard | 02:19:16 |
| @austin:tchncs.de | In reply to @cadence:cadence.moe
It is. https://gitdab.com/cadence/Carbon * oh there's also https://git.celery.eu.org/tezlm/discard y'know | 02:19:19 |
| fnz | Niche Gitea instances? 😍😍😍 | 02:23:57 |
| @austin:tchncs.de | In reply to @fnz:matrix.org
Niche Gitea instances? 😍😍😍 no it's just this guy's personal instance | 02:29:25 |
| @cadence:cadence.moe | gitdab is run by a friend | 02:33:28 |
| @cadence:cadence.moe | In reply to @cadence:cadence.moe
I planned to develop it further, but gave up that's why the left navigation is so weird. there's a reason I made it Like That that you'll never ever know about. | 02:34:45 |
| @cadence:cadence.moe | also it supports the old groups, from before spaces. | 02:42:13 |
| @cadence:cadence.moe | In reply to @austin:tchncs.de
oh there's also https://git.celery.eu.org/tezlm/discard y'know Wait, how much E2EE does this have? | 02:43:26 |
| @austin:tchncs.de | In reply to @cadence:cadence.moe
Wait, how much E2EE does this have? judging by https://git.celery.eu.org/tezlm/discard/src/branch/master/wishlist.md, zero | 02:43:47 |
| fnz |
[...] that's why the left navigation is so weird.
You tried to imitate ~~the Old Masters~~ Discord? | 02:44:41 |
| fnz | Did I mess the strikethrough's formatting up | 02:45:21 |
| @austin:tchncs.de | In reply to @fnz:matrix.org
Did I mess the strikethrough's formatting up <del></del> on element (tildes work on fluffychat) | 02:45:37 |
| @cadence:cadence.moe | In reply to @fnz:matrix.org
[...] that's why the left navigation is so weird.
You tried to imitate ~~the Old Masters~~ Discord? No, I tried to do my own thing. | 02:45:57 |
| fnz | Wait, they don't support Markdown here? | 02:46:02 |
| @austin:tchncs.de | In reply to @fnz:matrix.org
Wait, they don't support Markdown here? tildes as strikethrough is not in CommonMark | 02:46:23 |
| @austin:tchncs.de | element strictly implements CommonMark so | 02:46:34 |
| fnz | Pentalaimon can make any Matrix client view E2EE texts 🌋 | 02:46:53 |
| @cadence:cadence.moe | In reply to @cadence:cadence.moe
No, I tried to do my own thing. but I told you I'm not explaining. | 02:47:00 |
| @cadence:cadence.moe | In reply to @fnz:matrix.org
Pentalaimon can make any Matrix client view E2EE texts 🌋 it's cool!!!!! | 02:47:06 |
| fnz | I hate Markdown standardisation attempts even more than Markdown then | 02:48:05 |
| fnz | * [...] that's why the left navigation is so weird.
You tried to imitate the Old Masters Discord? | 02:48:42 |
