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9 Dec 2024
@richvdh:sw1v.orgrichvdhok, so to confirm: that would correspond to 21:54 UTC?22:15:10
@temporarynep:matrix.orgtemporarynepcorrect22:15:27
@travis:t2l.ioTravisRI'd rather not, tbh. It's already beyond my comfort level to sign myself up for this many pings 😅22:19:19
@richvdh:sw1v.orgrichvdh Having poked at the logs a bit, I think it probably is the same problem as https://github.com/element-hq/synapse/issues/17035, or at least something very much like it. Again, I see the request in matrix.org's haproxy logs, but Synapse drops the connection before the request completes. 22:41:52
@temporarynep:matrix.orgtemporarynepthank you for checking <322:45:10
@temporarynep:matrix.orgtemporarynepsince the query from the comments didn't seem to fix even temporarily, i guess now i have to figure out what to do,22:49:13
@temporarynep:matrix.orgtemporarynep * since the query from the comments didn't seem to fix even temporarily, i guess now i have to figure out what to do22:49:17
@richvdh:sw1v.orgrichvdhit's probably worth a go restarting synapse after dropping the messages, if you haven't already tried that22:50:44
@richvdh:sw1v.orgrichvdh(synapse will keep retrying the same transaction for a while)22:50:55
@temporarynep:matrix.orgtemporarynepi ran it with synapse fully off actually, since i wasn't sure about how it handled safety in that regard22:52:29
@temporarynep:matrix.orgtemporarynep1.120.2 fyi22:52:39
@temporarynep:matrix.orgtemporarynep * i ran the query with synapse fully off actually, since i wasn't sure about how it handled safety in that regard22:53:40
@richvdh:sw1v.orgrichvdhhrm :/22:55:30
@temporarynep:matrix.orgtemporarynep oh neat, removing the size check (i.e., running delete from device_federation_outbox where destination = 'matrix.org';) seemed to work (somehow)! 23:48:21
@richvdh:sw1v.orgrichvdhright, so yes. I looked at your traffic23:57:52
@richvdh:sw1v.orgrichvdhthe problem was not 500000-byte messages; it was, rather, a large number of 400000-byte messages23:58:38
@richvdh:sw1v.orgrichvdh that's going to mess up a lot of outbound encrypted messages :/ 23:59:16
10 Dec 2024
@temporarynep:matrix.orgtemporarynepit's not too bad since my server is mostly just for me, my bf and a few friends00:00:14
@richvdh:sw1v.orgrichvdhyou must have been sending messages to some very big encrypted rooms.00:01:42
@richvdh:sw1v.orgrichvdhanyway, glad you've fixed it. I believe the backend team are looking into this.00:02:27
@temporarynep:matrix.orgtemporaryneplol yep, there actually seems to be a vodozemac issue that causes encryption to take far longer than it did with libolm in big rooms, up to multiple minutes (reproducible with all vodozemac-based clients i tested, including element android + web and fractal) but that's neither here nor there anyway, i should look into reporting it on github if no one has done it yet00:03:38
@temporarynep:matrix.orgtemporarynepand thank you00:03:47
@temporarynep:matrix.orgtemporarynep * lol yep, there actually seems to be a vodozemac issue that causes encryption to take far longer than it did with libolm in big rooms, up to multiple minutes (reproducible with all vodozemac-based clients i tested, including element android + desktop and fractal) but that's neither here nor there anyway, i should look into reporting it on github if no one has done it yet00:07:23
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@shadowrz:nixos.devYorusaka Miyabi changed their display name from Yorusaka Miyabi | Emotional Bugged | No DM to Yorusaka Miyabi.06:21:46
@bkil:matrix.orgbkil @nex (she/it) I invited you because we were talking about v1. And as I myself reject DM by random people, I usually avoid sending out random DMs for the same reason. 🤷 12:38:14
@nex:nexy7574.co.uknex (she/it)Ah okay12:50:06
@nex:nexy7574.co.uknex (she/it)just gimme a ping somewhere next time :^)12:50:24
@ninchuka:envs.netninchukayeah simply asking here if she would like to be invited to a room where thats on topic would not require this12:52:33
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]i too am now having issues with matrix.org over federation...?13:33:34

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