| 9 Dec 2023 |
 Bruno | Conversations, despite being updated regularly (last I checked) looks like an app from 2016 | 21:07:38 |
 𝕁𝕚𝕚𝕓𝕦𝕤 | Welp, that didn't last long.
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/12/beeper-minis-imessage-app-for-android-is-broken-possibly-by-apple/
| 21:09:04 |
 @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | In reply to @synthgamer101:matrix.org
bruh, this is a public forum, everything that you message here is public info\ Public, of course. I'm happy with individuals and public server owners logging chats. That doesn't bother me. What bothers me is one central system doing the same things. One is not the same as the other. One is tolerable, the other is nefarious, insidious, and downright shady. | 21:09:44 |
 Synth | Discord can also log Matrix chats if they ever feel like it btw | 21:11:46 |
| @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | In reply to @esselownitro:arcticfoxes.net
They don't even really delete accounts, in a pretty verifiable manner I've had the misfortune of dealing with Discord DPO. They are a bunch of fuck heads. Never get into a Subject Access Request, or GDPR erasure request with Discord. They are truly a nightmare fuel outfit. | 21:12:28 |
| @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | In reply to @grapheneosbridge:grapheneos.org
<synth5204:discord> and just for the sake of the argument that Discord does everything that you say, there are ways to mitigate that Not if you use their app or desktop client there isn't. You're either stuck with their web implementation, which isn't much better,core something like Ripcord for desktop, which only has text, voice and attachments. No streaming, no video calls/conferences, no channel topics or whatever they are called. | 21:14:54 |
| @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | In reply to @esselownitro:arcticfoxes.net
They've, at least, expressed the will to be able to snoop in video calls, which didn't end up happening but only after backlash I just avoid using any of their software. I've only ever used Arkenfoxed RFP Firefox with uBlock Origin (all it's static blocklists) for accessing Discord with anonymous accounts created via public networks and VPN. | 21:17:25 |
| 𝕁𝕚𝕚𝕓𝕦𝕤 | In reply to @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de
I just avoid using any of their software. I've only ever used Arkenfoxed RFP Firefox with uBlock Origin (all it's static blocklists) for accessing Discord with anonymous accounts created via public networks and VPN. Do you not get hit with "we need a phone number"? | 21:18:24 |
 GrapheneOS Bridge | <nullnet_services_admin:discord> still no functional nitter main branch sadge | 21:19:02 |
| GrapheneOS Bridge | <nullnet_services_admin:discord> i did NOT get hit with one on a VPN (re @grapheneosbridge: <tropological:envs.net> > <@3dprinterthing:tchncs.de> I just avoid using any of their software. I've only ever used Arkenfoxed RFP Firefox with uBlock Origin (all it's static blocklists) for accessing Discord with anonymous accounts created via public networks and VPN.
Do you not get hit with "we need a phone number"?) | 21:19:14 |
| GrapheneOS Bridge | <nullnet_services_admin:discord> on aliucord (lmao) | 21:19:27 |
| GrapheneOS Bridge | <nullnet_services_admin:discord> on GOS | 21:19:31 |
| @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | In reply to @synthgamer101:matrix.org
Discord can also log Matrix chats if they ever feel like it btw Discord isn't about to record every channel on every federated Matrix server. They could, but would they? | 21:19:55 |
| 𝕁𝕚𝕚𝕓𝕦𝕤 | Maybe? The things companies go through to pump up their valuation with an IPO in mind doesn't surprise me | 21:20:57 |
 HybridStaticAnimate | In reply to @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de
Discord isn't about to record every channel on every federated Matrix server. They could, but would they? If its bridged, yeah. | 21:21:02 |
| @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | In reply to @tropological:envs.net
Do you not get hit with "we need a phone number"? Not so far. | 21:21:16 |
| @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | I suppose that's a plus of the very secretly obtained VPN I use through. | 21:22:19 |
| @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | There are only two VPN companies that come anywhere near the level of anonymity required to truly be untraceable. Mullvad and IVPN, although I suspect the latter is probably not so untraceable. Buying with Monero or mail in cash is always a good sign though. | 21:24:39 |
| @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | In reply to @g40ce7zmhtkh0jtvgu6rytagei2n2fa170ko6ar9l7fdh4nnos0ortwnfjlyfvsr:matrix.org
If its bridged, yeah. Well, obviously... | 21:27:01 |
| @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | But if I do this to discord... | 21:27:28 |
| @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | Redacted or Malformed Event | 21:27:56 |
| @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | And the delete it, does it also delete for Discord...? | 21:28:16 |
| @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | Let me know guys. | 21:28:22 |
 treacle | The bridge does delete messages between discord and matrix, yes | 21:29:27 |
| @3dprinterthing:tchncs.de | That's good then. | 21:29:58 |
| GrapheneOS Bridge | <mintpilo:discord> If you edit your messages they're also edited over here | 21:35:11 |
| GrapheneOS Bridge | <mintpilo:discord> They're probably only doing this because Meta announced it, and it seems to be for voice and video mainly? (re @grapheneosbridge: <synthgamer101:matrix.org> > <@esselownitro:arcticfoxes.net> That's been missing, for long, and they never wanted to do it before
https://discord.com/blog/encryption-for-voice-and-video-on-discord) | 21:39:57 |
| GrapheneOS Bridge | <mintpilo:discord> lol | 21:39:59 |
| GrapheneOS Bridge | <mintpilo:discord> What is even the point, then? | 21:40:30 |
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