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26 Jul 2024
@pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.compietrushnicIt really looks like part of coreboot/firmware hands-on09:30:58
@pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.compietrushnicchapter I09:31:03
@miczyg:matrix.orgmiczygPretty much it could make a decent initial script for such training. But I doubt it would fill 6h alone. I wrote the post in like 3-3.5h with the work done on the HW alltogether09:32:09
@miczyg:matrix.orgmiczyg * Pretty much, it could make a decent initial script for such training. But I doubt it would fill 6h alone. I wrote the post in like 3-3.5h with the work done on the HW alltogether.09:32:31
@pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.compietrushnicYou underestimate how much time exercises would take09:32:32
@miczyg:matrix.orgmiczygOhh yeah, forgot 🙂09:32:41
@pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.compietrushnicI did the calculation for Arch4031 and for 3 days training I need ~124 slides, 60 with theory and 64 with labs.09:34:20
@pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.compietrushnicOf course you have to count intro, Q&A and similar stuff09:35:09
@pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.compietrushnicit sound very low but this is what stats saying, of course I plan to have backup just in case, but it doesn't sound a lot of material, but it has to be rocket solid and work on this hw, fw, os09:36:03
@pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.compietrushnictraining related topics we can discuss on https://matrix.to/#/#ost2:matrix.org09:36:28
@per-astra-ad-deum:matrix.orgper-astra-ad-deumThumbs up for the Ondroid! I first thought it would be an ARM device, but it comes with one of Intels Low-Power-CPUs.10:56:22
@per-astra-ad-deum:matrix.orgper-astra-ad-deumSome questions remain though. First, the Ondroid comes in three variants from what I saw. Only two of them feature SATAIII ports. I hope you're supporting one of the variants with SATAIII ports? Otherwise projects like a DIY NAS would be a lot more complicated to build.10:58:01
@pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.compietrushnicwe work with middle one, so I guess yes11:15:53
@zir_blazer:matrix.orgzir_blazerTechnically they are the same board with increasingly more stuff populated11:16:47
@per-astra-ad-deum:matrix.orgper-astra-ad-deum
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Technically they are the same board with increasingly more stuff populated
True. Albeit they also feature different CPUs I think. And the "biggest" one also has two RJ-45 jacks, making certain network projects possible. So maybe they can all be ported after the middle one is done with?
11:19:55
@zir_blazer:matrix.orgzir_blazer
In reply to @per-astra-ad-deum:matrix.org
True. Albeit they also feature different CPUs I think. And the "biggest" one also has two RJ-45 jacks, making certain network projects possible. So maybe they can all be ported after the middle one is done with?
The Odroid H4+ already has two LANs. The highest end one is so you can get 8C Alder Lake-N instead of 4C
11:21:14
@per-astra-ad-deum:matrix.orgper-astra-ad-deum
In reply to @zir_blazer:matrix.org
The Odroid H4+ already has two LANs. The highest end one is so you can get 8C Alder Lake-N instead of 4C
Oh okay, my bad. So the one that is being worked on comes with dual-ethernet and SATAIII ports. That makes for a very tempting device!
11:28:48
@pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.compietrushnicultra version is expensive, if project would succesful we will think of it12:56:51
@pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.compietrushnicalso we don't consider Windows support in first run12:57:22
@zir_blazer:matrix.orgzir_blazer
In reply to @pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.com
ultra version is expensive, if project would succesful we will think of it
The only difference is that it uses a higher end CPU model. I could even bet that it would work out of the box. Or do you need to customize the FSP for every CPU swap on the MSI and I didn't noticed?
13:13:30
@zir_blazer:matrix.orgzir_blazerThe lower end model three differences was one less NIC, no PCIe-to-SATA Controller, and no Dual BIOS (Which I think it is a dumb switch, for ROM select, so nothing that may need to be deal with with code). Not worth it for 40 U$D less than the H4+. But you could deal with it like in the MSI WIFI vs nonWIFI based on whenever a installed device is detected on that port13:15:11
@zir_blazer:matrix.orgzir_blazerI don't see any reason why you can't support all 3 variants with one binary, may need just one of the other two as test units13:16:57
@pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.compietrushnic
In reply to @zir_blazer:matrix.org
The only difference is that it uses a higher end CPU model. I could even bet that it would work out of the box. Or do you need to customize the FSP for every CPU swap on the MSI and I didn't noticed?
No, no need for that. FSP is per microarch and then sometimes per market segment (e.g. server)
13:30:27
@per-astra-ad-deum:matrix.orgper-astra-ad-deumWill this become a product on your shop? If so, is there any ETA?13:38:17
@zir_blazer:matrix.orgzir_blazer
In reply to @per-astra-ad-deum:matrix.org
Will this become a product on your shop? If so, is there any ETA?
Worst case scenario you could purchase the Odroid on the official shop, and compile/flash binary yourself and/or get a suscription like with the MSI
13:47:44
@pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.compietrushnic
In reply to @per-astra-ad-deum:matrix.org
Will this become a product on your shop? If so, is there any ETA?
Yes, the plan is EOQ3'24
14:19:42
@pietrushnic:matrix.3mdeb.compietrushnic
In reply to @zir_blazer:matrix.org
Worst case scenario you could purchase the Odroid on the official shop, and compile/flash binary yourself and/or get a suscription like with the MSI
You can always do that or support Dasharo Team
14:20:11
@insurgo:matrix.orgtlaurion aka Insurgo [UTC-4]Nevermind https://github.com/linuxboot/heads/pull/173416:03:28
@insurgo:matrix.orgtlaurion aka Insurgo [UTC-4]https://github.com/linuxboot/heads/pull/173416:03:40
@insurgo:matrix.orgtlaurion aka Insurgo [UTC-4]
In reply to @insurgo:matrix.org
Nevermind https://github.com/linuxboot/heads/pull/1734
Seems to be CircleCI network bandwidth throttling, fixed there leaving coreboot do the right thing (tm), suncing its submodules the way it thinks best and not interfering with that.
16:05:08

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