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11 Nov 2024
@yantar92:matrix.orgyantar92 (Org contributor)
In reply to @jwwiegley:matrix.org

keywords, topics, categories, tags ... they are all a bit fungible. I've decided to define their meaning as follows:

  • categories are hierarchical
  • tags are for "resources required to address the task", like people, places and situations
  • topics and keywords are attributes of any task and act as tags normally do in other systems
yup, indeed. It is a question of each own idiosyncrasy
19:47:16
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn WiegleyEven "each own idiosyncrasy" of me and my past selves :)19:47:46
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn WiegleyI wonder if I'll even be using the same scheme next year...19:47:58
@yantar92:matrix.orgyantar92 (Org contributor)
In reply to @jwwiegley:matrix.org
I wonder if I'll even be using the same scheme next year...
I still have a couple of habits, slowly transferring tasks and files from old schemes
19:48:33
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn Wiegleybtw, I haven't had any issues with 9.7 after turning off element persistance19:48:36
@yantar92:matrix.orgyantar92 (Org contributor)Like there is a habit spanning the last few years to transfer files under org-attach19:48:52
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn WiegleyI decided to stop using org-attach19:49:08
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn Wiegley I use to be split between using org-attach for things related to tasks, and DEVONthink (a document database) for everything else. Now I use DEVONthink for all static content, and then I link my Org-mode tasks to it using its scheme for universally unique URLs 19:49:57
@yantar92:matrix.orgyantar92 (Org contributor)
In reply to @jwwiegley:matrix.org
I use to be split between using org-attach for things related to tasks, and DEVONthink (a document database) for everything else. Now I use DEVONthink for all static content, and then I link my Org-mode tasks to it using its scheme for universally unique URLs
even for git repos?
19:51:30
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn Wiegleyno, those live in =~/src= or =~/work=19:51:49
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn Wiegleynow, I do use org-attach still for attached images19:52:09
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn WiegleyI love org-download for that19:52:18
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn Wiegleybecause if I put them in DEVONthink, I have a stable link, but I don't get to see the image inline19:52:37
@yantar92:matrix.orgyantar92 (Org contributor)
In reply to @jwwiegley:matrix.org
I love org-download for that
yank-media is not supported natively ;)
19:52:38
@yantar92:matrix.orgyantar92 (Org contributor)
In reply to @jwwiegley:matrix.org
I love org-download for that
* yank-media is now supported natively ;)
19:52:43
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn Wiegleyoh nice!!19:52:48
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn WiegleyI should definitely try that19:52:52
@yantar92:matrix.orgyantar92 (Org contributor)and you can attach a file from URL since long time ago19:53:25
@yantar92:matrix.orgyantar92 (Org contributor)
In reply to @jwwiegley:matrix.org
I should definitely try that
also, you can always set :DIR: property to something like ./ to treat current directory as attachment directory
19:54:04
@yantar92:matrix.orgyantar92 (Org contributor)
In reply to @jwwiegley:matrix.org
because if I put them in DEVONthink, I have a stable link, but I don't get to see the image inline
I have a custom att-id:<ID>:file link type to link to arbitrary attachments under different heading. That's also stable
19:55:09
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn Wiegleythe URL looks like this: x-devonthink-item://F882AF53-B002-4C13-BC41-7A923F1AC37219:55:12
@yantar92:matrix.orgyantar92 (Org contributor)for stable urls, there is also https://github.com/novoid/Memacs/blob/master/docs/memacs_filenametimestamps.org19:56:08
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn WiegleyI guess another stable pattern would be to rename the file "<ID>_<TITLE>.<EXT>" in my org-attach directory. Since my org entries might move between files in different directories, using ./ is not stable.19:56:33
@yantar92:matrix.orgyantar92 (Org contributor)
In reply to @jwwiegley:matrix.org
I guess another stable pattern would be to rename the file "<ID>_<TITLE>.<EXT>" in my org-attach directory. Since my org entries might move between files in different directories, using ./ is not stable.
sure. My example was for very specific case - I was preparing slides
19:57:06
@yantar92:matrix.orgyantar92 (Org contributor)in a separate org file19:57:14
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn Wiegleyoh, derp, org-attach is already stable: it uses <ID>/<TITLE>19:57:34
@madnificent:chat.semantic.worksAad Versteden John Wiegley: I use an org-roam file for a category. What do you use for this and how do you query for anything within the hierarchy? 19:57:41
@yantar92:matrix.orgyantar92 (Org contributor)Re: linter I wish we can eventually (1) make org-lint more extendable by users; (2) integrate it with flycheck/flymake19:57:52
@jwwiegley:matrix.orgJohn Wiegley Aad Versteden: For me, each Org-roam file is either a note, or a place to capture notes and tasks. There are usually several such files per category, such as work or Org-mode. 19:58:42
@madnificent:chat.semantic.worksAad Versteden
In reply to @jwwiegley:matrix.org
Aad Versteden: For me, each Org-roam file is either a note, or a place to capture notes and tasks. There are usually several such files per category, such as work or Org-mode.
Do you use tags to indicate the category? I'm interested to know what technique you use to query any item within that hierarchy. It could be tags and code to represent the hierarchy or something else. I struggle to query the hierarchy in my current setup.
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