| 19 Jan 2019 |
| 04:24:31 |  Sam Flint | which is pretty nice, since they're in a relatively anatomically neutral position when typing. |
| 04:24:43 |  Anant Paatra | But using Emacs with it requires a lot of modifications, doesn't it? |
| 04:24:48 | Sam Flint | I just use it period, I do a lot of programming in Lisp. |
| 04:25:00 | Sam Flint | How would Programmer's dvorak. |
| 04:25:21 | Sam Flint | And the thumb thing is the with the Kinesis, not Programmer's Dvorak. |
| 04:26:11 | Sam Flint | And honestly, I started typing dvorak before I learned Emacs. And since most bindings are mnemonic, it's not that bad. |
| 04:27:46 | Anant Paatra | Well, I actually think Dvorak makes Emacs keybindings a lot better hehe but the problem that I've experienced with Programmer's Dvorak is with the inversion of numbers and punctuation. |
| 04:28:05 | Anant Paatra | Sometimes it got really weird and I would just switch back to regular Dvorak to get work done. |
| 04:28:10 | Sam Flint | Ah. Fair. I've not had a huge issue. |
| 04:28:51 | Sam Flint | With bindings or general use. |
| 04:30:50 | Anant Paatra | 
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| 04:31:32 | Anant Paatra | Current keyboard config hehe its been a while since the last time I gave Programmer's Dvorak a try. I guess it's time to shake the dust and use it for a couple days :) |
| 04:32:03 | Sam Flint | I can't see anything. |
| 04:32:31 | Anant Paatra | Oh, sorry. |
| 04:32:33 | Anant Paatra | 
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| 04:32:54 | Sam Flint | Oh wow. Lotta layouts. |
| 04:32:55 | Anant Paatra | Nativo is a layout for typing Brazilian Portuguese based on the Dvorak method :D |
| 04:35:22 | Anant Paatra | I'm normally using regular Dvorak to type in English, but when I need to type in Portuguese I switch to Dvorak international with dead keys. I don't really like Brazil Dvorak so I don't remember why it is there, but I sometimes use Nativo (not that fast with it) to type long texts in Portuguese, and the regular Qwerty so my girlfriend doesn't feel intimitated by my computer and actually tries to do stuff with it sometimes :) It's funny. |
| 04:36:26 | Anant Paatra | I actually can type in Portuguese with accents pretty fast using Emacs C-x 8 XD It's horrible but I use it a lot if its just a couple words or a quick note. |
| 04:36:37 | Anant Paatra | C-x 8 |
| 04:37:12 | Anant Paatra | C-x 8 , c for a ç hehe |
| 04:38:40 | Sam Flint | Ah. I'm attempting to learn french, I just used a prefix input method. |
| 04:40:39 | Sam Flint | Which works for me as a learner, but also helps to keep one layout. Granted, it only works in emacs. |
| 04:41:27 | Anant Paatra | Yeah, if you end up writing a lot you will eventually need dead keys. |
| 04:42:11 | Sam Flint | I believe it! |
| 04:42:22 | Sam Flint | Well, off to bed. |
| 04:42:36 | Anant Paatra | Same! Night! |
| 09:36:17 |  empwilli | Anant Paatra: Have you thought about setting up a compose key system wide? It works quite well for my english keyboard layout + german umlauts (and some spanish for learning) |
| 10:15:06 |  Gergely Polonkai | empwilli: i’m more into dead keys and custom layouts, but i did think about utilising compose for emoji |
| 10:15:06 | Gergely Polonkai | Also, another Dvorak typist here, although i modified it a bit for Hungarian text. |
