It is really very deep and technical. I fail to imagine it working. Ok, you can use your fingerpring to buy ice cream, and if it was not you, you can reverse it.... Waait a minute, how exactly do you reverse an ice cream?

Well, add a voice confirmation to your spendings for over a buck when you need to pronounce a certain auto generated phrase. Too much for an ice cream, isn't it?

I think they consider everything they can't control as a threat, and they already control factories, communications, they have backdoors everywhere. It may be possible to organize that system within a group of locals, maybe, but on international level...

Someone said if your dreams don't scare you, they aren't big enough. )
Who knows.

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> I actually don't know what storno is. I don't use banks at all. It is a reverse accounting operation. Original: acc A-> acc B =100£. Can't change it or delete. But putting a corrective entry attached to it is allowed.

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It is really very deep and technical. I fail to imagine it working. Ok, you can use your fingerpring to buy ice cream, and if it was not you, you can reverse it.... Waait a minute, how exactly do you reverse an ice cream?

Well, add a voice confirmation to your spendings for over a buck when you need to pronounce a certain auto generated phrase. Too much for an ice cream, isn't it?

• Also systems like that must be very complex and likely impossible to analyze, even while being free, libre, open source. AI will require datasets for learning and they likely must be open too (security through obscurity is not a good way to implement it, you know), but then their features will be known and it'll be easy to mess with them... probably.

Yes and no. The protocol is the most important thing. Based on PoID. Implementation might differ while conforming to interfaces. Can't imaging a small team able to achieve all that. Thus we need good funding.

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I think they consider everything they can't control as a threat, and they already control factories, communications, they have backdoors everywhere. It may be possible to organize that system within a group of locals, maybe, but on international level...

Someone said if your dreams don't scare you, they aren't big enough. )
Who knows.

<@persono.id:matrix.org> > It is really very deep and technical. I fail to imagine it working. Ok, you can use your fingerpring to buy ice cream, and if it was not you, you can reverse it.... Waait a minute, how exactly do you reverse an ice cream?

Well, add a voice confirmation to your spendings for over a buck when you need to pronounce a certain auto generated phrase. Too much for an ice cream, isn't it?

So, what device should I talk to?

Let's get it straight.
There is no an absolutely reliable technology.
They can make you do anything under the gun.
The solution is to make it too hard or useless. Like if they make you transfer your money to an account, then it is someone's account.
Trustless environment: to a certain extent, as who wants to depend on a digital key completely?

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<@persono.id:matrix.org> > It is really very deep and technical. I fail to imagine it working. Ok, you can use your fingerpring to buy ice cream, and if it was not you, you can reverse it.... Waait a minute, how exactly do you reverse an ice cream?

Well, add a voice confirmation to your spendings for over a buck when you need to pronounce a certain auto generated phrase. Too much for an ice cream, isn't it?

So, what device should I talk to?

Let's get it straight.
There is no an absolutely reliable technology.
They can make you do anything under the gun.
The solution is to make it too hard or useless. Like if they make you transfer your money to an account, then it is someone's account.
Trustless environment: to a certain extent, as who wants to depend on a digital key completely?

<@persono.id:matrix.org> > > <@persono.id:matrix.org> > It is really very deep and technical. I fail to imagine it working. Ok, you can use your fingerpring to buy ice cream, and if it was not you, you can reverse it.... Waait a minute, how exactly do you reverse an ice cream?

Well, add a voice confirmation to your spendings for over a buck when you need to pronounce a certain auto generated phrase. Too much for an ice cream, isn't it?

So, what device should I talk to?

Let's get it straight.
There is no an absolutely reliable technology.
They can make you do anything under the gun.
The solution is to make it too hard or useless. Like if they make you transfer your money to an account, then it is someone's account.
Trustless environment: to a certain extent, as who wants to depend on a digital key completely?

I was literally asking that) Like can it be some average android phone, is it your device, or seller's?

<@persono.id:matrix.org> > > <@persono.id:matrix.org> > It is really very deep and technical. I fail to imagine it working. Ok, you can use your fingerpring to buy ice cream, and if it was not you, you can reverse it.... Waait a minute, how exactly do you reverse an ice cream?

Well, add a voice confirmation to your spendings for over a buck when you need to pronounce a certain auto generated phrase. Too much for an ice cream, isn't it?

So, what device should I talk to?

Let's get it straight.
There is no an absolutely reliable technology.
They can make you do anything under the gun.
The solution is to make it too hard or useless. Like if they make you transfer your money to an account, then it is someone's account.
Trustless environment: to a certain extent, as who wants to depend on a digital key completely?

I was literally asking that) Like can it be some average android phone, is it your device, or seller's?

You are going to make a transaction by sending some encrypted payment to a public node. So, you need to input or scan destination address and accompanying data , sign it with some secret data using bio, one-time pwd, using 2FA or any combination of your preference.
You might generate signed data offline using some offline device with a screen and let the shop scan QR code or barcode. Or generate it on your mobile using some secure app and send tx to a node.
But if you need to rent a car, you have a rental company that needs to identify you. Implementations might differ. I.e. you provide some "short code" or bio (face, fingerprints, voice) to the shop scanner or smth that hashes it and requests a persono.id node, that returns only needed info of your choice. The info might be one-time purposefully generated by a node according to the persono.id protocol.
If you care much about keeping your bio from being collected, you may keep and provide some hash that is sent along with a request and , say your photo is returned as a part of the node's reply.
Generally, even if your bio is collected somehow, it can't be used maliciously.
There is no code as there is nothing to code.
We need the protocol. To craft it we need different points of view, a community of proficients from different areas, you know.