| 11 Dec 2024 |
 poVoq | And people should not complain about deficits in their choise of a protocol when using it via bridges. | 11:21:35 |
 Skyflare ⚡️ | If something should be displayed as part of the room name (such as what XMPP does to server names) is should be part of the "Room Name", it's as clear and simple as that | 11:21:54 |
| poVoq | The problem is obviously not xmpp or irc users | 11:22:02 |
| poVoq | None of them complainec. | 11:22:17 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | No, you bridge is just not configured to misuse matrix | 11:22:20 |
| poVoq | *d | 11:22:22 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | s/you/the/ | 11:22:40 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | s/not // | 11:22:49 |
| poVoq | It *is* displayed as part of the channel identifier in xmpp and IRC | 11:23:15 |
| poVoq | The problem is soley on the matrix side | 11:23:34 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | XMPP doesn't even have proper room names, it has to make one up by combining "room name" (which is its id) and the server's name | 11:24:15 |
| poVoq | Yes that is a proper address | 11:24:35 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | Matrix (and it's clients) support actual room names but the server does not | 11:24:37 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | s/server/bridge/ | 11:24:48 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | Which is the route cause of the issue | 11:24:56 |
| poVoq | That matrix doesn't easily display proper room addresses, yes | 11:25:21 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | Because they aren't relevant (unless you're joining or inviting) | 11:25:54 |
| poVoq | But they obviously are, otherwise we wouldn't have this discussion | 11:26:19 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | And this is by design and is one of the actual strength of Matrix | 11:26:28 |
| poVoq | No it is a bad assumption in the protocol design | 11:26:47 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | poVoq: they aren't, the issue is that you and your bridge keep pretending that they are | 11:26:57 |
| poVoq | The bridge is litterally developed by Element, not me. | 11:27:34 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | Matrix Protocol: Don't try to convey information using the room address which isn't relevant, use the "Room Name" instead
poVoq (Well, actually the bridge): I am just going to put the most important part in the address | 11:29:03 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ |
The bridge is litterally developed by Element, not me.
Yes, meme aside this is issue is 100% on them
| 11:29:43 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | It's literally their bridge that doesn't realize that the server name is important and should be included in the "Room Name" | 11:30:28 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | (unless they have this option and it happened to be misconfigured on f-hub) | 11:31:03 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | s/this is issue/this issue/ | 11:31:26 |
| poVoq | No they don't | 11:37:53 |
| poVoq | (And the xmpp bridge does) | 11:38:05 |
| Skyflare ⚡️ | I am not surprised | 11:38:33 |
