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29 Mar 2024
@soniex2:possum.cityGenders: ♾️, 🟪⬛🟩; Soni L.we want an alternative model to CLAs and uh what are they called again "rug pulls"?14:58:45
@smichel17:matrix.orgsmichel17Agreed. And if we assume for a moment that we have magically solved the funding problem, we already have a solution for that: AGPL with no CLA15:03:09
@smichel17:matrix.orgsmichel17We only need the CLA so the company can do proprietary relicensing, and that's only necessary to secure funding.15:11:14
@smichel17:matrix.orgsmichel17* Agreed. And if we assume for a moment that we have magically solved the funding problem, we already have a solution for that: (A)GPL with no CLA15:11:31
@b:chreekat.netchreekatWouldn't paywalling every open source project just be the equivalent of getting rid of open source? Sharing source code of proprietary projects through license agreements is already a thing15:41:36
@soniex2:possum.cityGenders: ♾️, 🟪⬛🟩; Soni L.but you'd share the source under a free license, just with an initial paywall15:43:41
@soniex2:possum.cityGenders: ♾️, 🟪⬛🟩; Soni L.and "we" don't like supply chain attacks do "we"15:43:56
@soniex2:possum.cityGenders: ♾️, 🟪⬛🟩; Soni L.so that's an incentive to get it directly from the source (aka pay for it instead of collecting scraps from distros and other third-party sources)15:44:18
@soniex2:possum.cityGenders: ♾️, 🟪⬛🟩; Soni L.(but we don't know. just some thoughts.)15:45:22
@wolftune:matrix.orgwolftune Ardour is slightly this way. Paywall for full binary but source is still open 17:04:47
@soniex2:possum.cityGenders: ♾️, 🟪⬛🟩; Soni L.well that aged quickly22:42:48
@wolftune:matrix.orgwolftunezero FLO compromise really but convenience of ready binary paywalled to encourage donation17:05:21
@adroit:matrix.orgAdroit Leaving the mumble because no one is around today 20:12:35
@wolftune:matrix.orgwolftunesorry hard for me too20:13:58
@wolftune:matrix.orgwolftune
In reply to @soniex2:possum.city
well that aged quickly
what aged quickly? the Ardour example?
22:43:41
@wolftune:matrix.orgwolftune* sorry hard for me too, today is too hectic for the meeting22:44:22
1 Apr 2024
@soniex2:possum.cityGenders: ♾️, 🟪⬛🟩; Soni L.
In reply to @soniex2:possum.city
and "we" don't like supply chain attacks do "we"
the thing about supply chain attacks
14:13:09
@smichel17:matrix.orgsmichel17The context is https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/03/29/422:51:28
@smichel17:matrix.orgsmichel17In short, a backdoor was recently found in the xz compression library22:53:03
@smichel17:matrix.orgsmichel17Here's a bunch of the story: https://boehs.org/node/everything-i-know-about-the-xz-backdoor22:53:34
4 Apr 2024
@MSiep:matrix.orgMSiepI've uploaded a significant update to https://crowdmatch.org. It now should display reasonably on mobile phones (does on mine so far at least!), and has an initial suggestion for the "Why" page, as well as a Projects page that invites people to pledge at Snowdrift.coop for now.18:59:22
@wolftune:matrix.orgwolftunefirst impression: superb!19:33:48
@adroit:matrix.orgAdroit
In reply to @smichel17:matrix.org
The context is https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/03/29/4
Thank you, that is what I was missing
21:04:58
@adroit:matrix.orgAdroit
In reply to @MSiep:matrix.org
I've uploaded a significant update to https://crowdmatch.org. It now should display reasonably on mobile phones (does on mine so far at least!), and has an initial suggestion for the "Why" page, as well as a Projects page that invites people to pledge at Snowdrift.coop for now.
Yes it does look good on mobile!
21:06:16
@adroit:matrix.orgAdroit "Crowdmatching empowers regular folks"

I remember that this was meant to mean "folks of ordinary financial means". I think "regular folks" does the trick, but only if the context already brought up traditional wealthy donors...
21:07:58
@adroit:matrix.orgAdroit Also, I love this image ☺️ 21:10:16
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21:10:16
@smichel17:matrix.orgsmichel17

MSiep: You could experiment with making "See your impact" toggle-able by using a <details> element. Something like

<details>
<summary>See your impact</summary>
<div class="block">
    <!-- Contents of the yourImpact div -->
</div>
</details>
22:31:18
@smichel17:matrix.orgsmichel17 *

MSiep: You could experiment with making "See your impact" toggle-able by using a <details> element. Something like

<details>
  <summary>See your impact</summary>
  <div class="block">
    <!-- Contents of the yourImpact div -->
  </div>
</details>
22:32:17
@MSiep:matrix.orgMSiep
In reply to @smichel17:matrix.org

MSiep: You could experiment with making "See your impact" toggle-able by using a <details> element. Something like

<details>
  <summary>See your impact</summary>
  <div class="block">
    <!-- Contents of the yourImpact div -->
  </div>
</details>
Thanks for pointing out <details> and <summary>. I did think about enabling hiding it again but wanted to minimize complexity once the user has expressed interest in their impact. It's of course possible to re-hide it by reloading the page, but I'm not sure that having a control on the page to re-hide it is worth the extra complexity it would add to an already very dense area.
23:57:14

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