| 28 Apr 2023 |
 cmart | I both like and hate this | 16:30:54 |
| cmart | it shortcuts human thinking.. what Peter Naur calls Theory Building in this context (https://pablo.rauzy.name/dev/naur1985programming.pdf) | 16:32:25 |
| cmart |
A program is a shared mental construct (he uses the word theory) that lives in the minds of the people who work on it. If you lose the people, you lose the program.
| 16:32:47 |
 julianp | Yup. | 16:33:13 |
| cmart | Maybe, a few years from now, we'll appreciate the rare good tools which don't use a LLM, the same way that we appreciate local-first (not cloud SaaS) tools today | 16:35:22 |
| julianp | Maybe. I don’t think the analogy is quite the same. LLMs can run local-first, and be under your control.
It might be more like the nostalgia of vintage computer hardware or hand tools instead of shiny MacBooks and power tools. | 16:37:11 |
| cmart | yesterday at Hacky Hour we were talking about https://mlc.ai/web-llm
uses WebGPU to run LLaMA etc on your local GPU, but in your browser | 16:40:38 |
| julianp | Now imagine LLMs in browsers combined with something like this (just seen on HM):
https://scrapscript.org/ | 16:58:19 |
| julianp | * Now imagine LLMs in browsers combined with something like this (just seen on HN):
https://scrapscript.org/ | 16:58:34 |
| cmart | combined how? i'm confused | 16:59:36 |
| cmart |
Scrapscript solves the software sharability problem
very bold claim for a one-person project 😆
| 17:00:29 |
| julianp | In reply to @cmart:matrix.org
combined how? i'm confused Running complex LLM-based applications in a distributed way. | 17:00:51 |
| julianp | In reply to @cmart:matrix.org
Scrapscript solves the software sharability problem
very bold claim for a one-person project 😆
Elm was (arguably is still) a one-person project. | 17:01:32 |
| cmart | yes; Elm's claims are much less bold | 17:02:02 |
| julianp | Fair. But I don’t think this a terribly bold a claim. I played with Beaker Browser quite a bit (sadly now retired) and it proved that this model can work - from a technical perspective anyway. Adoption is another matter entirely (VHS vs Beta, SAAS vs local-first, open source vs closed, etc.)
https://github.com/beakerbrowser/beaker | 17:10:24 |
| julianp | * Fair. But I don’t think this a terribly bold claim. I played with Beaker Browser quite a bit (sadly now retired) and it proved that this model can work - from a technical perspective anyway. Adoption is another matter entirely (VHS vs Beta, SAAS vs local-first, open source vs closed, etc.)
https://github.com/beakerbrowser/beaker | 17:10:34 |
| 9 May 2023 |
| julianp | Can anybody who hasn't done so please 'star' the Exosphere repo on GitHub & GitLab?
https://github.com/exosphere-project/exosphere
https://gitlab.com/exosphere/exosphere | 20:40:01 |
| 22 May 2023 |
| cmart | 
Download image.png | 16:01:30 |
| cmart | apparently Jitsi now considers open-to-the-public meetings as "unsafe" 🙄 | 16:33:30 |
| cmart | I have applied to renew our membership to GitLab's open source program.
This process typically takes 3 - 5 business days, and in rare times of high volume, may take up to 10 business days.
The subscription nominally expires on June 2, so hopefully this isn't a rare time of high volume 🙂
| 21:47:29 |
| cmart | In reply to @cmart:matrix.org
apparently Jitsi now considers open-to-the-public meetings as "unsafe" 🙄 https://community.jitsi.org/t/feedback-on-new-this-room-is-unsafe-message/123758 | 22:21:33 |
| cmart | In reply to @cmart:matrix.org
apparently Jitsi now considers open-to-the-public meetings as "unsafe" 🙄 * asked about this here https://community.jitsi.org/t/feedback-on-new-this-room-is-unsafe-message/123758 | 22:21:45 |
| 23 May 2023 |
| cmart | In reply to @cmart:matrix.org
I have applied to renew our membership to GitLab's open source program.
This process typically takes 3 - 5 business days, and in rare times of high volume, may take up to 10 business days.
The subscription nominally expires on June 2, so hopefully this isn't a rare time of high volume 🙂
got and applied renewal code, so we're good for another year. | 14:40:42 |
| 26 May 2023 |
| julianp | Monday is a public holiday in the USA. Any objections to moving the weekly meeting to Tuesday morning? | 20:25:30 |
| 17 Jul 2023 |
|  alecbcs changed their profile picture. | 03:22:12 |
| alecbcs changed their profile picture. | 03:23:57 |
| 1 Aug 2023 |
| cmart | https://meetu.ps/e/Mmj4s/Qs0R/i
today I learned there's a research triangle OpenStack meetup with a thousand people in it | 22:13:14 |
| 8 Aug 2023 |
 Jeremy Fischer | Well, Redhat | 16:31:04 |
| cmart | that didn't occur to me but you're right | 17:22:26 |
| Jeremy Fischer | I know that's where their pre-IBM HQ was. I assume most of their folks are still there. | 18:25:48 |
