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@_discord_995849888854196325:t2bot.ioBeagleAppreciator#8980 * I'll phase it differently only to add basic ideas that are actually givens anyway. Parity should exist between gui functions and some bare metal or at least perfectly explicit, (p) auditable, (p) repeatable like c++ or bash, maybe python. ".desktop" is a strange in between that isn't clearly in either and doesn't in theory need to exist. for example some early operating systems with primitive gui literally did not let you start a program from anywhere but its exact memory start. This is recognizable in even the long and tangled path to Mac OS X where this is no longer true at a higher level (and probably in any way) of course but you still have to drag the dmg into the applications folder. that is functional and standard but importantly not ideal for theoretical reasons. I think those reasons might oddly be in some ways opposite in extreme to ".desktop". 08:00:10
@_discord_995849888854196325:t2bot.ioBeagleAppreciator#8980 * I'll phase it differently only to add basic ideas that are actually givens anyway. Parity should exist between gui functions and some bare metal or at least perfectly explicit, (p) auditable, (p) repeatable like c++ or bash, maybe python (like the actual operating system in a view). ".desktop" is a strange in between that isn't clearly in either and doesn't in theory need to exist. for example some early operating systems with primitive gui literally did not let you start a program from anywhere but its exact memory start. This is recognizable in even the long and tangled path to Mac OS X where this is no longer true at a higher level (and probably in any way) of course but you still have to drag the dmg into the applications folder. that is functional and standard but importantly not ideal for theoretical reasons. I think those reasons might oddly be in some ways opposite in extreme to ".desktop". 08:01:30
@_discord_995849888854196325:t2bot.ioBeagleAppreciator#8980 * I'll phase it differently only to add basic ideas that are actually givens anyway. Parity should exist between gui functions and some bare metal or at least perfectly explicit, (p) auditable, (p) repeatable like c++ or bash, maybe python (like the actual operating system in a view). ".desktop" is a strange in between that isn't clearly in either and doesn't in theory need to exist. for example some early operating systems with primitive gui literally did not let you start a program from anywhere but its exact memory start. This is recognizable in even the long and tangled path to Mac OS X where this is no longer true at a higher level (and probably in any way) of course but you still have to drag the dmg into the applications folder. that is functional and standard but importantly not ideal for theoretical reasons. I think those reasons might oddly be in some ways opposite in extreme to ".desktop". the original which .desktop copied being something on top of that mac os situation to make things easier but doesn't map on unless forced on linux. 08:03:50
@_discord_995849888854196325:t2bot.ioBeagleAppreciator#8980 * I'll phase it differently only to add basic ideas that are actually givens anyway. Parity should exist between gui functions and some bare metal or at least perfectly explicit, (p) auditable, (p) scope, (p) repeatable like c++ or bash, maybe python (like the actual operating system in a view). ".desktop" is a strange in between that isn't clearly in either and doesn't in theory need to exist. for example some early operating systems with primitive gui literally did not let you start a program from anywhere but its exact memory start. This is recognizable in even the long and tangled path to Mac OS X where this is no longer true at a higher level (and probably in any way) of course but you still have to drag the dmg into the applications folder. that is functional and standard but importantly not ideal for theoretical reasons. I think those reasons might oddly be in some ways opposite in extreme to ".desktop". the original which .desktop copied being something on top of that mac os situation to make things easier but doesn't map on unless forced on linux. 08:08:52
@_discord_66210571971735552:t2bot.ioSagacity159#4519 A .desktop file is define by freedesktop. Implementation is entirely up to the desktop environment and can range from what you saw with Thulnar to what you see with KDE. A desktop environment might choose to impement more or less functionality, quality of life features, and UI elements based on the design goals and philosophy of that desktop environment. Something like Openbox may implement only the bare minimum for example. 08:11:46
@_discord_66210571971735552:t2bot.ioSagacity159#4519 It sounds to me like you just dislike the design philosophy seen from KDE regarding this. 08:12:06
@_discord_995849888854196325:t2bot.ioBeagleAppreciator#8980 no 08:12:28
@_discord_995849888854196325:t2bot.ioBeagleAppreciator#8980 nvm 08:12:32
@_discord_995849888854196325:t2bot.ioBeagleAppreciator#8980 * its just like "." people wanted some ui feature so they pigion holed it into something existing where it wasn't meant to fit 08:17:15
@_discord_176448203879743488:t2bot.iotestman Apparently Reddit did a bad today and now https://join-lemmy.org/ is getting a lot of attention. 08:56:38
@_discord_105615196327829504:t2bot.ioDeathDaisyšŸŒˆ#9587 what did they do this time 08:57:47
@_discord_66210571971735552:t2bot.ioSagacity159#4519 Reddit is bad. Go get banned on reddit. It's like a badge of honor 09:09:07
@_discord_471429575919009802:t2bot.iojvoisin#8882 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/05/reddits-api-pricing-results-in-shocking-20-million-a-year-bill-for-apollo/ 09:11:55
@_discord_176448203879743488:t2bot.iotestman well, it goes for all 3rd party clients 09:12:40
@_discord_471429575919009802:t2bot.iojvoisin#8882 also, who would buy API access to reddit, and what for :? 09:13:24
@_discord_176448203879743488:t2bot.iotestman I assume that Teddit and Libreddit are among them as well 09:13:26
@_discord_471429575919009802:t2bot.iojvoisin#8882 * also, who would buy API access to reddit, and what for :/ 09:13:26
@_discord_176448203879743488:t2bot.iotestman so that you can get data in nice format instead of having to load whole website and scrape it? 09:14:21
@_discord_471429575919009802:t2bot.iojvoisin#8882 sure, I see the point of the API 09:14:40
@_discord_471429575919009802:t2bot.iojvoisin#8882 but I fail to imagine legitimate business cases for paying for it 09:14:55
@_discord_176448203879743488:t2bot.iotestman yep, I can't think of any as well 09:15:31
@_discord_105615196327829504:t2bot.ioDeathDaisyšŸŒˆ#9587 and lemmy is kinda to reddit what mastodon is to twitter? 09:17:35
@_discord_66210571971735552:t2bot.ioSagacity159#4519 Reddit as a social platform is just kind of bad. It just happens to be popular. 09:21:48
@_discord_66210571971735552:t2bot.ioSagacity159#4519 As a news aggregator it's even worse. 09:22:01
@_discord_66210571971735552:t2bot.ioSagacity159#4519 It's just not that good of a website and I feel only justifies itself with its userbase, which means nothing if it's at a net negative. 09:22:34
@granminigun:matrix.orgGranMinigunAI training.09:30:20
@_discord_471429575919009802:t2bot.iojvoisin#8882 sigh 09:36:06
@_discord_127352532384088064:t2bot.iopsi29a#3708 Talks about the draw call and rewriting their renderer from opengl to vulkan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddfMzq0CNTw
14:33:18
@_discord_127352532384088064:t2bot.iopsi29a#3708 which makes things interesting in vsgopenmw context 14:33:50
@granminigun:matrix.orgGranMinigunI noticed that Vulkan is often slower than OpenGL on my machine.14:35:39

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