| 20 Jan 2022 |
 cos | Mail and forum clients could share a lot of code or even be the same. A IMAP mailbox could be presented as a forum. | 08:39:18 |
 MTRNord | Well the hard/annoying part is all the SMTP and imap implementing. It's quite a lot of work. Though the newest imap rfc cleared up a lot of questions and simplified imap a lot 😅 (ImapV4rev3) | 08:47:51 |
| MTRNord | (part of it is that for non native speakers the email RFCs are quite hard to understand imho.) | 08:49:07 |
| cos | Aren't there some nice libraries to do the painful stuff? | 08:49:59 |
| MTRNord | Not sure how the email World of js looks like. In rust it was until recently quite rough. There is an imap client thats fairly good now. I tried to write an rust imap server but it isn't finished. For SMTP I don't know.
And for a nice experience I am not sure how much the bridge would need to hook into the internals of a server. | 08:51:40 |
| cos | I suppose it could act as a regular client | 08:52:58 |
| MTRNord | Well for that bridges do exist but they didn't really get too popular. | 08:53:26 |
| MTRNord | I think there are 3 bridges or so. Can't send links right now as I am on my phone | 08:53:48 |
| cos | Well, you need also a client to actually use the bridge. | 08:55:05 |
| cos | Perhaps for example thunderbird could implement support for matrix-based mailboxes. But probably a web-based client is also needed. | 08:56:25 |
| MTRNord | In reply to @cos:hacklab.fi
Well, you need also a client to actually use the bridge. Usually they just used replies afaik | 09:00:31 |
| MTRNord | Now one could use threads | 09:00:47 |
| cos | A chat client is not a mail (or forum) client. You really need a specialized client for those. | 09:01:28 |
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| 23 Jan 2022 |
| adrian | hey all 👋 - found this room through yousefed's matrix matrix-crdt repo. I'm the co-founder of https://kubelt.com ( #lobby:matrix.kubelt.com ) which is building a decentralized content management system on top of hypercore and IPFS/IPLD w/ rdf (no blockchain!).
I was interested in the CRDTs project because behind the scenes we're building a web3 daap (federated not blockchain) developer framework akin to TBL's solid -- the CMS is a just reference architecture for a broader vision. Anyway, nice to meet you all, matrix is a fantastic system.
| 00:32:20 |
| adrian | * hey all 👋 - found this room through yousefed's matrix matrix-crdt repo. I'm the co-founder of https://kubelt.com ( #lobby:matrix.kubelt.com ) which is building a decentralized content management system on top of hypercore and IPFS/IPLD w/ rdf (no blockchain!).
I was interested in the CRDTs project because behind the scenes we're building a web3 daap (federated not blockchain) developer framework akin to TBL's solid -- the CMS is a just reference architecture for a broader vision. Anyway, nice to meet you all, matrix is a fantastic system!
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 yousefed | In reply to @adrian:matrix.kubelt.com
hey all 👋 - found this room through yousefed's matrix matrix-crdt repo. I'm the co-founder of https://kubelt.com ( #lobby:matrix.kubelt.com ) which is building a decentralized content management system on top of hypercore and IPFS/IPLD w/ rdf (no blockchain!).
I was interested in the CRDTs project because behind the scenes we're building a web3 daap (federated not blockchain) developer framework akin to TBL's solid -- the CMS is a just reference architecture for a broader vision. Anyway, nice to meet you all, matrix is a fantastic system!
Paper looks quite interesting! Whats the current status of the project :)? | 17:13:55 |
| adrian | Thanks yousefed The SDK and gateway infront of our cores is approaching alpha release.
We started onboarding some customers to smooth out the rough edges. A sanity.io plugin should so be ready March-April and open sourcing the peers later this year | 17:17:59 |
| adrian | Both SDK and peer are clojure script | 17:19:20 |
 bbigras | I saw the matrix crdt thing on hacker News the other day.
Is that type of crdt only for conversations?
I was wondering if it could be used to make something like paperless but without my mom having to host a server.
Also wondering if it could be used to do something like tailscale. For the database part.
| 20:53:07 |
| bbigras | Maybe in other words, does crdt work for any JSON? | 20:54:19 |
