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20 Jan 2022
@cos:hacklab.ficosMail and forum clients could share a lot of code or even be the same. A IMAP mailbox could be presented as a forum.08:39:18
@mtrnord:nordgedanken.devMTRNord Well the hard/annoying part is all the SMTP and imap implementing. It's quite a lot of work. Though the newest imap rfc cleared up a lot of questions and simplified imap a lot 😅 (ImapV4rev3) 08:47:51
@mtrnord:nordgedanken.devMTRNord (part of it is that for non native speakers the email RFCs are quite hard to understand imho.) 08:49:07
@cos:hacklab.ficosAren't there some nice libraries to do the painful stuff?08:49:59
@mtrnord:nordgedanken.devMTRNord

Not sure how the email World of js looks like. In rust it was until recently quite rough. There is an imap client thats fairly good now. I tried to write an rust imap server but it isn't finished. For SMTP I don't know.

And for a nice experience I am not sure how much the bridge would need to hook into the internals of a server.

08:51:40
@cos:hacklab.ficosI suppose it could act as a regular client08:52:58
@mtrnord:nordgedanken.devMTRNord Well for that bridges do exist but they didn't really get too popular. 08:53:26
@mtrnord:nordgedanken.devMTRNord I think there are 3 bridges or so. Can't send links right now as I am on my phone 08:53:48
@cos:hacklab.ficosWell, you need also a client to actually use the bridge. 08:55:05
@cos:hacklab.ficosPerhaps for example thunderbird could implement support for matrix-based mailboxes. But probably a web-based client is also needed.08:56:25
@mtrnord:nordgedanken.devMTRNord
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Well, you need also a client to actually use the bridge.
Usually they just used replies afaik
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@mtrnord:nordgedanken.devMTRNordNow one could use threads09:00:47
@cos:hacklab.ficosA chat client is not a mail (or forum) client. You really need a specialized client for those.09:01:28
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23 Jan 2022
@adrian:matrix.kubelt.comadrian

hey all 👋 - found this room through yousefed's matrix matrix-crdt repo. I'm the co-founder of https://kubelt.com ( #lobby:matrix.kubelt.com ) which is building a decentralized content management system on top of hypercore and IPFS/IPLD w/ rdf (no blockchain!).

I was interested in the CRDTs project because behind the scenes we're building a web3 daap (federated not blockchain) developer framework akin to TBL's solid -- the CMS is a just reference architecture for a broader vision. Anyway, nice to meet you all, matrix is a fantastic system.

00:32:20
@adrian:matrix.kubelt.comadrian *

hey all 👋 - found this room through yousefed's matrix matrix-crdt repo. I'm the co-founder of https://kubelt.com ( #lobby:matrix.kubelt.com ) which is building a decentralized content management system on top of hypercore and IPFS/IPLD w/ rdf (no blockchain!).

I was interested in the CRDTs project because behind the scenes we're building a web3 daap (federated not blockchain) developer framework akin to TBL's solid -- the CMS is a just reference architecture for a broader vision. Anyway, nice to meet you all, matrix is a fantastic system!

00:32:39
@yousefed:matrix.orgyousefed
In reply to @adrian:matrix.kubelt.com

hey all 👋 - found this room through yousefed's matrix matrix-crdt repo. I'm the co-founder of https://kubelt.com ( #lobby:matrix.kubelt.com ) which is building a decentralized content management system on top of hypercore and IPFS/IPLD w/ rdf (no blockchain!).

I was interested in the CRDTs project because behind the scenes we're building a web3 daap (federated not blockchain) developer framework akin to TBL's solid -- the CMS is a just reference architecture for a broader vision. Anyway, nice to meet you all, matrix is a fantastic system!

Paper looks quite interesting! Whats the current status of the project :)?
17:13:55
@adrian:matrix.kubelt.comadrian Thanks yousefed The SDK and gateway infront of our cores is approaching alpha release. We started onboarding some customers to smooth out the rough edges. A sanity.io plugin should so be ready March-April and open sourcing the peers later this year 17:17:59
@adrian:matrix.kubelt.comadrianBoth SDK and peer are clojure script17:19:20
@bbigras:matrix.orgbbigrasI saw the matrix crdt thing on hacker News the other day. Is that type of crdt only for conversations? I was wondering if it could be used to make something like paperless but without my mom having to host a server. Also wondering if it could be used to do something like tailscale. For the database part. 20:53:07
@bbigras:matrix.orgbbigrasMaybe in other words, does crdt work for any JSON?20:54:19

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