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26 Jun 2022
@klugmathias:matrix.org0.Eth3rnal_HMmmm22:27:08
@klugmathias:matrix.org0.Eth3rnal_Meee22:27:10
@hinata08:matrix.orghinata08
In reply to @Dezponia:matrix.org
I mean what kind of nutjob wouldn't run a local firewall on every device, even internally? :P
Companies that consider that the threat is outside
22:27:25
@Dezponia:matrix.orgDezponia 0.Eth3rnal_: Firewall all the things at all time. Run a local firewall on all devices. Segment the network in VLANs with firewalls inbetween if you're doing anything serious, etc etc :) 22:28:06
@hinata08:matrix.orghinata08Remember notpetya and related attacks on smb v1 ?22:28:35
@hinata08:matrix.orghinata08Wannacry too22:28:35
@Dezponia:matrix.orgDezponiaOh, and KEEP YOUR GOSH DARN MANAGEMENT NETWORK PHYSICALLY SEPARATED AND DISCONNECTED FROM THE INTERNET... you know... unless you hate owning your hardware and would like to donate it to someone else22:28:47
* @Dezponia:matrix.orgDezponia wants to slap a lot of people who hook IPMI up to the internet22:29:17
@klugmathias:matrix.org0.Eth3rnal_
In reply to @Dezponia:matrix.org
0.Eth3rnal_: Firewall all the things at all time. Run a local firewall on all devices. Segment the network in VLANs with firewalls inbetween if you're doing anything serious, etc etc :)
I want to segment any untrusted IOT devices into a diff network with a firewall in between
22:29:29
@klugmathias:matrix.org0.Eth3rnal_If i can do that22:29:41
@klugmathias:matrix.org0.Eth3rnal_ * If I can do that22:29:54
@klugmathias:matrix.org0.Eth3rnal_I don't have a local firewall on my computer since it was quite annoying to deal with it22:30:07
@klugmathias:matrix.org0.Eth3rnal_So I just disabled it22:30:12
@klugmathias:matrix.org0.Eth3rnal_I am keeping the default firewall in the mikrotik tho22:30:24
@Dezponia:matrix.orgDezponia
In reply to @klugmathias:matrix.org
I want to segment any untrusted IOT devices into a diff network with a firewall in between
Neat. You can either do that by having a "personal" and a "IOT" interface on your Mikrotik router, and then plugging them into physically different switches. Or you can invest in a switch that can handle VLANS :)
22:30:28
@Dezponia:matrix.orgDezponia
In reply to @klugmathias:matrix.org
So I just disabled it
Lul :P
22:30:45
@klugmathias:matrix.org0.Eth3rnal_Hmm22:30:46
@Dezponia:matrix.orgDezponiaThat is the stupidity of disabling the MAC system taken to a whole new level, the firewall :P22:31:30
@Dezponia:matrix.orgDezponia"File permissions where annoying so I just chmod 777 everything!" :P22:31:47
@Dezponia:matrix.orgDezponia * "File permissions were annoying so I just chmod 777 everything!" :P22:32:05
@klugmathias:matrix.org0.Eth3rnal_
In reply to @Dezponia:matrix.org
That is the stupidity of disabling the MAC system taken to a whole new level, the firewall :P
Heh, what does the MAC system do?
22:33:55
@Dezponia:matrix.orgDezponiaMandatory Access Control. Think SELinux or AppArmor22:34:11
@Dezponia:matrix.orgDezponiaNot MAC as in the network MAC :)22:34:49
@Dezponia:matrix.orgDezponiaAnd not Mac as in the Apple computer :P22:34:56
@Dezponia:matrix.orgDezponiaThe IT world really needs to stop using MAC as an acronym :P22:35:12
@hinata08:matrix.orghinata08Macbe22:37:47
@klugmathias:matrix.org0.Eth3rnal_
In reply to @Dezponia:matrix.org
Mandatory Access Control. Think SELinux or AppArmor
Well SELinux is annoying and most people turn it off
22:39:37
@Dezponia:matrix.orgDezponia
In reply to @klugmathias:matrix.org
Well SELinux is annoying and most people turn it off
And most people are stupid :P
22:39:56
@klugmathias:matrix.org0.Eth3rnal_And the reason why I disabled the firewall is cuz I have the router firewall22:40:09
@klugmathias:matrix.org0.Eth3rnal_So I know which ports the outside has access to22:40:33

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