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28 Jul 2021
@genrtyl:matrix.orggentritineThe platform doesn't really need to be good17:02:29
@hypokeimenon:tchncs.dehypo 🏳️‍🌈 (unavailable/homeserver undergoing maintenance)
In reply to @genrtyl:matrix.org
Hence why most social media platforms are horrible platforms
because right now the platform itself is the main attraction?
@genrtyl:matrix.orggentritineNot in general, no. People use Facebook and Twitter because 1. they're the only things they know and 2. because they've got interesting content or people on them17:04:12
@hypokeimenon:tchncs.dehypo 🏳️‍🌈 (unavailable/homeserver undergoing maintenance)I think Facebook and Twitter are heavily invested in ensuring Facebook and Twitter are the place you go to see content17:05:08
@genrtyl:matrix.orggentritineWell, insofar as anybody uses Facebook anymore17:05:09
@genrtyl:matrix.orggentritineBut Facebook-the-company has already acquired more zoomer-friendly platforms 😈17:05:30
@hypokeimenon:tchncs.dehypo 🏳️‍🌈 (unavailable/homeserver undergoing maintenance)they do, I get what you mean but Facebook is super popular especially in the developing world iirc17:05:49
@hypokeimenon:tchncs.dehypo 🏳️‍🌈 (unavailable/homeserver undergoing maintenance)https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-5592965417:06:34
@genrtyl:matrix.orggentritineI mean, I think Matrix very clearly has visibility problems. It's doesn't really register as a competitor to Discord.17:06:42
@hypokeimenon:tchncs.dehypo 🏳️‍🌈 (unavailable/homeserver undergoing maintenance)

It is widely said that, in Myanmar, Facebook is the internet, so when the military asked for it to be blocked for the sake of "stability" it sent a shockwave through the country.

@genrtyl:matrix.orggentritineReally, it should probably just be marketed as "Element" in order to not confuse normies :P17:07:26
@hypokeimenon:tchncs.dehypo 🏳️‍🌈 (unavailable/homeserver undergoing maintenance)I think "visibility problems" is a different way of framing it but one of the founders agrees with you17:08:17
@genrtyl:matrix.orggentritineAs social media it does. I mean, there are also upsides to getting in on something as it's starting.17:09:54
@genrtyl:matrix.orggentritineEven if it never really gets big :P17:10:04
@genrtyl:matrix.orggentritineDiscord has threads now19:07:00
@genrtyl:matrix.orggentritinePretty fun feature19:07:06
@genrtyl:matrix.orggentritineApparently they did it the same as Slack19:07:23
In reply to @hypokeimenon:tchncs.de
is there context for the timing of this post? or is it in relation to https://blog.discord.com/connect-the-conversation-with-threads-on-discord-3f5fa8b0f6b?gi=4881cba11524
No context. I wanted to start a discussion about the new Element blog post, but it was badly done since I was extremely busy over the past few days and couldn't get anything done outside of work and the home
@meff:sunadokei.partymeffAlso because my phone's alarms all went on silent which has been stressful19:09:04
In reply to @genrtyl:matrix.org
Pretty fun feature
unnecessary on discord. would be far more useful on matrix
@orangebanannax:matrix.orgorangebanannax joined the room.21:08:54
@orangebanannax:matrix.orgorangebanannaxWill matrix ever get threads though? Seems like matrix is slow to add features21:13:15
@tleydxdy:tlebear.wintleydxdyelement is pretty quick tbh23:08:31
@orangebanannax:matrix.orgorangebanannaxCan element do that without adding it to the matrix protocol? 23:10:02
@orangebanannax:matrix.orgorangebanannaxSorry, I'm new to both these things23:10:17
@tleydxdy:tlebear.wintleydxdysome things it can, some thing it cannot23:11:23
@tleydxdy:tlebear.wintleydxdyI think depending on how they want to do threading it can be completely client side23:12:48
@tleydxdy:tlebear.wintleydxdywe have reply to already23:12:56
@tleydxdy:tlebear.wintleydxdyso the client just need to keep track of that23:13:05
@orangebanannax:matrix.orgorangebanannaxHmm good point, they could just like link a bunch of reply-tos and call that a thread 23:13:33

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