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8 Dec 2018
@cd10012:matrix.orgcd10012Tht’s the right idea those social graphs could be any type of relation but for the example I gave its 👌🏼05:09:17
@dorgjelli:matrix.orgdOrgJelli invited @ontologymachine:matrix.orgontologymachine.05:09:40
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@dorgjelli:matrix.orgdOrgJelli ontologymachine: you would find the above topic cory elaborated on intersting 05:10:15
@cd10012:matrix.orgcd10012Also this could be the metadata ontop of the contract address itself05:11:27
@cd10012:matrix.orgcd10012 obviously but just in case i didn’t make that clear 05:11:42
@ontologymachine:matrix.orgontologymachine omg cd10012 i have a ton of thoughts on this and have also been trying to work out how to represent it in a diagrammatic framework! 05:13:10
@ontologymachine:matrix.orgontologymachinei'm heading to dinner right now but i am going to read through this this weekend05:13:34
@ontologymachine:matrix.orgontologymachinecheck this out, i think its relevant based on my skim thru05:14:06
@ontologymachine:matrix.orgontologymachineDownload Social Chaosmos- Michel Serres and the emergence of social order.pdf05:14:17
@ontologymachine:matrix.orgontologymachineso excited to have connected with y'all! get it all out of your brain before it bursts haha :)05:17:20
@dorgjelli:matrix.orgdOrgJelliyou act like it hasn't already happened yet 😆05:17:47
@dorgjelli:matrix.orgdOrgJelliHave a good dinner!05:17:50
@cd10012:matrix.orgcd10012 Awesome I’ll take a look tonight! 05:20:37
9 Dec 2018
@dorgjelli:matrix.orgdOrgJellihttps://github.com/dOrgTech/research19:45:24
10 Dec 2018
@dorgjelli:matrix.orgdOrgJellihttps://www.palantir.com/22:25:47
@dorgjelli:matrix.orgdOrgJellian interesting company some products that are similar to what we've lightly discussed before22:26:15
@cd10012:matrix.orgcd10012
En respuesta a @dorgjelli:matrix.org
https://www.palantir.com/
palantir is doing it for the military industrial complez
22:33:21
@cd10012:matrix.orgcd10012 peter thiel loves providing these tools to law enforcement 22:34:42
@dorgjelli:matrix.orgdOrgJelliOh god :(23:22:00
@ontologymachine:matrix.orgontologymachine
In reply to @dorgjelli:matrix.org
an interesting company some products that are similar to what we've lightly discussed before
which part of palantir's work do you find analogous?
23:28:53
@cemfd:matrix.orgcemfdWorld domination im guessing23:33:30
@ontologymachine:matrix.orgontologymachine

haha of course! that does call to mind an interesting parallel btw these two links that may or may not be relevant to the palantir narraitve:

  • https://fsi.stanford.edu/cyber/content/cyber-project-secrecy-sequential-decision-making

  • https://fsi.stanford.edu/cyber/content/cyber-project-self-incentivizing-networks

23:37:52
@ontologymachine:matrix.orgontologymachinenot to drop in random links, happy to explain the connection i'm thinking of if anyone is intrigued23:40:29
@cemfd:matrix.orgcemfdGoing to sleep! Will check tomorrow, but the urls were enough to intrigue me if you have to know:)23:43:24
@dorgjelli:matrix.orgdOrgJelli

Lolol @cem

I just found out about them today from an article headline saying they were in deep shit. I looked at their landing page + thumbnails of their apps and got the feel for the type of analytical tools they were trying to bring to individuals in organizations, and it was very similar to some we’ve discussed in the past.

23:47:42
@dorgjelli:matrix.orgdOrgJelliIt seems like they’re a less than trusted corporation though23:48:56
@ontologymachine:matrix.orgontologymachineyes palantir themselves are sketch (analogy to Saruman's palantir in LOTR has followed a suspiciously relevant trajectory) but you've hit on my exact interest in mapping and predicting group/market dynamics at scale -- specifically, the power of an analogous system if companies opted into sharing that data23:51:55
@dorgjelli:matrix.orgdOrgJelliWith DAOs on chain, the world’s worth of organizational data is at our fingertips 😌23:58:54
11 Dec 2018
@cd10012:matrix.orgcd10012
In reply to @ontologymachine:matrix.org

haha of course! that does call to mind an interesting parallel btw these two links that may or may not be relevant to the palantir narraitve:

  • https://fsi.stanford.edu/cyber/content/cyber-project-secrecy-sequential-decision-making

  • https://fsi.stanford.edu/cyber/content/cyber-project-self-incentivizing-networks

Yeah palantir is committed to expanding the surveillance state as far as it can go imo. These papers are illuminating started reading the first.

also outside of the pomdp type of control AI's we could explore these types of algorithms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human-based_genetic_algorithm

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