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29 Jan 2023
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate a governing body is not a state @planetoryd 18:43:14
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate a state is a institution that holds unquestionable authority over a territory 18:53:34
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate an absolute or almost absolute center of power 18:54:01
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate in anarchist societies there is no such concentration of power 18:55:06
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate power is divided as best as possible among as many people as possible 18:56:10
@planetoryd:matrix.orgplanetorydthen you will have no winning armies18:56:43
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate and you lose your share when you infringe uppon the rights of innocent individuals 18:56:47
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate
In reply to @planetoryd:matrix.org
then you will have no winning armies
why would that be the case ?
18:58:56
@planetoryd:matrix.orgplanetorydmilitary has to have leaders, a lot of leaders, and is naturally hierarchical18:59:37
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate an anarchist army has fundamental differences over a regular one 18:59:51
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate but they often do have hierarchies 19:00:08
@planetoryd:matrix.orgplanetorydand some people have to hold secrets for strategic advantage19:00:56
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate the difference between the hierarchy inside and anarchist army and one inside a state run army is that subordination is voluntary in the former 19:01:23
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate and you reach a higer rank based on a combination of merits and support 19:02:14
@planetoryd:matrix.orgplanetorydmore or less compelled19:02:28
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate compelled by necessity , not superiors 19:04:30
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate and if most of the warriors inside a squad are dissatisfied with their commander they can chose another one 19:05:47
@planetoryd:matrix.orgplanetoryd no one wants to fight 19:07:00
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate in times of war you would be surprised of how many would want to fight 20:47:12
30 Jan 2023
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate fun fact 02:12:07
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate we anarchists have been technicaly at war at least from the 20th century 02:13:03
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate if not from earlier 02:13:31
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@planetoryd:matrix.orgplanetoryd
In reply to @light-tate:anonymousland.org
in times of war you would be surprised of how many would want to fight
in some way you are right, that modern military is voluntary, but there is still discipline, command and reluctance
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@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate not only that but even civilians fight back if they see their lands invaded 20:21:10
@light-tate:anonymousland.orgLightTate
In reply to @planetoryd:matrix.org
in some way you are right, that modern military is voluntary, but there is still discipline, command and reluctance
discipline dose not have to be enforced
20:29:30
31 Jan 2023
@planetoryd:matrix.orgplanetoryd
In reply to @light-tate:anonymousland.org
discipline dose not have to be enforced
There is a fundamental difference between individual interests and collective interests
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