29 Jan 2023 |
LightTate | a governing body is not a state @planetoryd | 18:43:14 |
LightTate | a state is a institution that holds unquestionable authority over a territory | 18:53:34 |
LightTate | an absolute or almost absolute center of power | 18:54:01 |
LightTate | in anarchist societies there is no such concentration of power | 18:55:06 |
LightTate | power is divided as best as possible among as many people as possible | 18:56:10 |
planetoryd | then you will have no winning armies | 18:56:43 |
LightTate | and you lose your share when you infringe uppon the rights of innocent individuals | 18:56:47 |
LightTate | In reply to @planetoryd:matrix.org then you will have no winning armies why would that be the case ? | 18:58:56 |
planetoryd | military has to have leaders, a lot of leaders, and is naturally hierarchical | 18:59:37 |
LightTate | an anarchist army has fundamental differences over a regular one | 18:59:51 |
LightTate | but they often do have hierarchies | 19:00:08 |
planetoryd | and some people have to hold secrets for strategic advantage | 19:00:56 |
LightTate | the difference between the hierarchy inside and anarchist army and one inside a state run army is that subordination is voluntary in the former | 19:01:23 |
LightTate | and you reach a higer rank based on a combination of merits and support | 19:02:14 |
planetoryd | more or less compelled | 19:02:28 |
LightTate | compelled by necessity , not superiors | 19:04:30 |
LightTate | and if most of the warriors inside a squad are dissatisfied with their commander they can chose another one | 19:05:47 |
planetoryd | no one wants to fight | 19:07:00 |
LightTate | in times of war you would be surprised of how many would want to fight | 20:47:12 |
30 Jan 2023 |
LightTate | fun fact | 02:12:07 |
LightTate | we anarchists have been technicaly at war at least from the 20th century | 02:13:03 |
LightTate | if not from earlier | 02:13:31 |
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planetoryd | In reply to @light-tate:anonymousland.org in times of war you would be surprised of how many would want to fight in some way you are right, that modern military is voluntary, but there is still discipline, command and reluctance | 09:45:25 |
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LightTate | not only that but even civilians fight back if they see their lands invaded | 20:21:10 |
LightTate | In reply to @planetoryd:matrix.org in some way you are right, that modern military is voluntary, but there is still discipline, command and reluctance discipline dose not have to be enforced | 20:29:30 |
31 Jan 2023 |
planetoryd | In reply to @light-tate:anonymousland.org discipline dose not have to be enforced There is a fundamental difference between individual interests and collective interests | 01:02:59 |