| 4 Mar 2019 |
| 14:31:47 |  George Singer (Gitter) | and takes down Simula with it |
| 14:31:52 |  sudoreboot | In reply to @gitter_georgewsinger:matrix.org
We need to set up an OpenHMD backend for Simula I already did, it just doesn't work with multithreading |
| 14:31:54 | George Singer (Gitter) | Though they've gotten better |
| 14:32:30 | George Singer (Gitter) | Is that hard limitation of OpenHMD? Or we just have to set up multithreading? |
| 14:32:45 |  Christoph Haag (Gitter) | Well we just have to wait for the OpenXR spec release |
| 14:32:58 | sudoreboot | In reply to @gitter_georgewsinger:matrix.org
Is that hard limitation of OpenHMD? Or we just have to set up multithreading? Probably the plugin |
| 14:33:09 | sudoreboot | The godot plugin that si |
| 14:33:16 | George Singer (Gitter) | And yes, I stand corrected: https://github.com/SimulaVR/Simula/blob/master/addons/godot-haskell-plugin/src/Plugin/VR.hs#L19 |
| 17:57:05 |  Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | Okay so I'll have to wait till you get that base station thing |
| 17:57:48 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | (edited) ... thing => ... thing figured out |
| 17:58:06 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | (edited) ... you get that base ... => ... you enable using it without a base ... |
| 17:58:25 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | (edited) ... station thingfigured ... => ... station figured ... |
| 17:58:30 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | (edited) ... station figured out => ... station |
| 18:04:47 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | Going to see what the VR lab at my college has available too. (And at the same time see if I can connect their wiimotes for use as a controller!) |
| 18:04:58 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | (edited) ... connect their wiimotes ... => ... connect the nearby game lab's wiimotes ... |
| 18:05:12 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | (edited) ... available too. (And ... => ... available today. (And ... |
| 18:08:51 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | I was looking over the posts on the wiki and noticed that your goals are even more ambitious than a VR desktop. Would I be correct to infer that the reason for going with wayland is to later be able to avoid systemd? |
| 18:09:07 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | (edited) ... desktop. Would I ... => ... desktop. If you're making a VR _distro_... would I ... |
| 18:12:49 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | Also given that a VR desktop environment, I'm imagining you could make it multi-user without too much trouble! I like the idea of being able to stand side by side with someone- pair programming would be extremely smooth to transition into for example. |
| 18:15:25 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | (edited) Also given that a VR desktop environment, I'm imagining you could make it multi-user without too much trouble! I like the idea of being able to stand side by side with someone- pair programming would be extremely smooth to transition into for example. => I was looking over the posts on the wiki and noticed that your goals are even more ambitious than a VR desktop. If you're making a VR _distro_... would I be correct to infer that a reason for going with wayland is to later be able to avoid systemd? |
| 18:16:46 | Christoph Haag (Gitter) | perhaps with godot's multiplayer capabilities |
| 18:18:58 | Christoph Haag (Gitter) | you probably can't use steamvr with the official vive driver that comes with it without having basestations, but you can use OpenHMD's reverse engineered Vive driver (that supports only rotational tracking at the moment anyway) and even use that one with SteamVR with SteamVR-OpenHMD though that requires some compiling |
| 18:23:59 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | I've been looking into OpenHMD. Got their opengl example working, so yes I suppose that moves the actual bottleneck for my usage back to me being able to compile your code |
| 18:24:50 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | (Or simply having a compiled binary since I confirmed the binary on the Ubuntu install worked) |
| 18:25:24 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | (edited) ... simply having a ... => ... simply getting a ... |
| 19:59:20 | George Singer (Gitter) |
I was looking over the posts on the wiki and noticed that your goals are even more ambitious than a VR desktop. If you're making a VR distro... would I be correct to infer that a reason for going with wayland is to later be able to avoid systemd?
The honest reason why we went with Wayland is that Simula was originally based off of motorcar (an earlier VR window manager that ran on the Oculus Rift DK2). However, the author of that project outlines some theoretical reasons why Wayland is better for VR than X11. Here is a link to his masters thesis which outlines those reasons, if you're curious : ) |
| 20:25:16 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | Ah! Makes sense |
| 20:25:23 | Maximilian Van Hout (Gitter) | Thank you |
| 21:57:32 | Christoph Haag (Gitter) | I'm guessing much of the reason is that it's easier running offscreen 3d accelerated |
| 21:57:39 | Christoph Haag (Gitter) | and synthesizing input on X is not fun |
