| 18 Nov 2020 |
 georgewsinger | In the present we're focused on stabilizing and perfecting SimulaVR itself before worrying about that though | 21:18:06 |
| georgewsinger | * Lankinen Milkey_Mouse We have tried at various points to raise money for Simula from institutions like YC and failed. We have self-funded the project up until now. | 21:20:42 |
 Milkey_Mouse | It's built on Godot, right? Enable networking and sell telepresence pair programming 🤔 | 21:20:52 |
| georgewsinger | Heh. Possibly? | 23:17:08 |
| 19 Nov 2020 |
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| 20 Nov 2020 |
|  moses changed their display name from moses to moses#6590. | 21:58:15 |
| moses changed their display name from moses#6590 to moses. | 21:58:15 |
| moses | I'd really like telepresence programming | 21:58:16 |
| moses | I spend a fair amount of time doing "pair programming" but all it really is is one of us writes code while the other watches through screenshare | 21:58:45 |
| moses | Still helps, especially when we're trying to figure out some obscure Linux thing, and both of us are just googling solutions to some problem | 22:00:19 |
| moses | But definitely having XR telepresence would help out a lot | 22:01:00 |
| moses | In terms of monetization, if I were y'all, I'd look to Collabora's business model | 22:06:05 |
| moses | basically, they develop/maintain open-source software, and companies that use whatever open-source software will pay Collabora to add some new feature to their software
Their main differentiated value seems to be lots of good developers that can make well-architected software and add features quickly | 22:08:53 |
| moses | The Blender Foundation works a lot like this too | 22:10:30 |
| 21 Nov 2020 |
|  Cerebral Malfunction changed their display name from Cerebral Malfunction to Cerebral Malfunction#7546. | 20:15:48 |
| Cerebral Malfunction changed their display name from Cerebral Malfunction#7546 to Cerebral Malfunction. | 20:15:48 |
| Cerebral Malfunction | telepresence + remote desktop | 20:15:50 |
| Cerebral Malfunction | that sounds incredibly useful | 20:15:57 |
| 22 Nov 2020 |
 veritas | Is there a specific channel for feature requests/suggestions? | 00:02:34 |
| Cerebral Malfunction | what's the state of the art as far as just porting "hand presence" over network, like Index hand pose data? can you gesture efficiently with it? or is it not sufficient? | 01:01:33 |
| Cerebral Malfunction | * what's the state of the art as far as just porting "hand presence" over network, like Index hand pose data? can you gesture efficiently with it? or is it not sufficient? | 01:01:56 |
| 26 Nov 2020 |
 sudoreboot | In reply to @_discord_336289413749276684:t2bot.io
what's the state of the art as far as just porting "hand presence" over network, like Index hand pose data? can you gesture efficiently with it? or is it not sufficient? That depends on Godot's support for the index controller. As long as the inputs work properly it's only a matter of mapping it to a hand model's skeleton and synchronising the pose over the network | 13:54:21 |
| sudoreboot | I have been out of the game for a while so I don't know current status on VR controllers in Godot | 13:54:54 |
| sudoreboot | Actually don't need to sync the pose even, just the inputs | 13:55:34 |
| Cerebral Malfunction | i meant more big-picture then that i guess... like in general, if you port index hand data between users, is it enough data for them to communicate as they expect to? or does too much sublety get lost for human gesturing to work? can sign language work? could i use my SCUBA handsignals? or does it basically cap out at rock-paper-scissors/flipping the bird? also, how does latency in hand gesturing affect human communication? | 18:10:13 |
 triazo | iirc index controller support was recently made for godot as a third party package. As for sign language, a lot gets lost but people have made a dialect of ASL for use in vrchat. | 18:16:10 |
 haagch | the index controllers only measure one value for little, ring, middle and index finger, based on how much of that finger touches the handle and trigger button. the thumb has mostly like 4 different possible positions depending on which of the buttons/trackpad/thumbstick you touch/press | 18:20:44 |
| haagch | I don't think complex and subtle gestures work too well with it | 18:21:09 |
| haagch | but you can do real finger tracking with the cameras of the Index HMD :) | 18:21:24 |
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