| 29 Mar 2021 |
 hexmode | you know Confluence is going 100% SAAS, right? A friend at a local sizable IT department asked if I knew anyone who has done a Confluence -> MW migration. | 19:40:35 |
| hexmode | Do I? Do you? | 19:41:24 |
| hexmode | I feel like I need to ping people to get a quick response ☝️ | 19:41:59 |
| hexmode | freephile: any ideas? ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ | 19:43:48 |
| hexmode | I would ping cicalese but it looks like she's already seen it. Maybe Bryan Hilderbrand ? | 19:44:28 |
 rundg | I think the Confluence situation is what triggered Pega to adopt MediaWiki | 19:45:22 |
| hexmode | Do they have Confluence? Have you converted any wiki stuff? | 19:45:50 |
| rundg | The downside is that they started out without any knowledge of MediaWiki and started specifying a MediaWiki that looks and acts like Confluence | 19:46:24 |
| rundg | Haven't imported anything. I believe the strategy at the moment is to re-create everything | 19:48:46 |
| 30 Mar 2021 |
 tgr | was Confluence ever not SAAS? | 16:54:18 |
| tgr | or is it that they don't offer an on-premise version anymore? | 16:54:31 |
 Bryan Hilderbrand | They used to have both (Cloud and On-Premise), here's what their pricing page says now and another link:
- Important changes to our server and Data Center products - We’ve ended sales for new server licenses and will end support for server on February 2, 2024. We’re continuing investment in Data Center with several key improvements.
| 17:12:08 |
 richardheigl | For on premises, only the data center license is offered. This is too expensive for normal companies | 17:56:17 |
| hexmode | The company my friend works at is not a small concern. He manages the admins who control Confluence. It may help if they see a slide deck for BlueSpice, richardheigl. Do you have anything about it vs Confluence? | 18:41:30 |
| rundg | I don't have access to the exact pricing info, but I believe my company was looking at a $400K/yr license fee for Confluence | 19:24:45 |
| 1 Apr 2021 |
 Jeffrey Wang (MyWikis) | Tax question: is MWStake a 501(c)(3)? | 00:11:31 |
| Bryan Hilderbrand | 501(c)(6) | 00:14:06 |
| Jeffrey Wang (MyWikis) | Thank you | 04:43:53 |
 justinl | Hey all, I'm getting an error at the exact same spot in an SMW rebuildData.php script run, it takes 5-6 hours to get to the same failure spot so it's hard to test and repro quickly: Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError from line 1699 of /srv/www/sites/gw2w-en/includes/libs/rdbms/database/Database.php: Error 1114: The table 't1' is full. I'm guessing this is about temp table sizes. AWS Aurora's default is 16 MB, so I increased it to 32 MB but still fails. Is my assumption correct? Any thoughts? | 15:25:01 |
| justinl | FWIW the table in question is smw_object_ids and it has about 1.76 million rows. | 15:26:27 |
| justinl | Also FWIW the query that fails is INSERT IGNORE INTO t1 SELECT DISTINCT t2.smw_id FROM smw_object_ids AS t2 WHERE t2.smw_sortkey<='span class=\"smw-format list-format \"><span class=\"smw-row\"><span class=\"smw-field\"><span class=\"smw-value\">Auric Basin</span></span></span>' | 15:58:00 |
| justinl | I just checked, the SELECT DISTINCT subquery returns 1,765,297 rows out of the total 1,765,939 rows in the table. So if it's a temp table size issue, I wonder if the overall size of the smw_object_ids table has grown just large enough over the past year since the last time I had to do this rebuild to be too large for the default table size.
Also, increasing tmp_table_size didn't work but apparently that works in conjunction with max_heap_table_size, which also defaults to 16 MB, so I've increased that to 32 MB in dev as well and I'm running another test.
| 16:26:37 |
 cicalese | Jeffrey Wang: This is awesome! https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6783197423717146624/ | 20:13:30 |
| 2 Apr 2021 |
 Georgios Mavropalias | Would have loved to join the upcoming group meeting Bryan Hilderbrand but it's too late in the night for Australia! Hopefully there will be earlier times in the future! | 01:15:29 |
| Bryan Hilderbrand | Georgios Mavropalias Makes sense. It's tough to balance all the time zones. Maybe we could alternate every month? hexmode | 01:44:44 |
| Georgios Mavropalias | In reply to @bryandamon:matrix.org
Georgios Mavropalias Makes sense. It's tough to balance all the time zones. Maybe we could alternate every month? hexmode I wouldn't change it if it already works! As funny as it sounds, we must consider if trying to be inclusive will hurt the majority. Maybe there are only 1 -2 people in Australia who want to be present, but changing the time zone to earlier will affect everyone who isn't! I will be checking the agenda and if I find a topic that I feel it's important to me and I need to be present, I'll stay up. | 02:16:04 |
| Jeffrey Wang (MyWikis) | Oops, did I join too late? I can't seem to enter the room.. | 16:41:45 |
| Jeffrey Wang (MyWikis) | * Oops, did I join too late? I can't seem to enter the room... | 16:41:47 |
| Bryan Hilderbrand | Hey, yes sorry. We finished already. Started a bit over an hour ago. | 16:43:18 |
| Jeffrey Wang (MyWikis) | Oh, I thought 16:30 UTC is right now... | 16:44:14 |
