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30 May 2019
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode

Guy Macron writes:

Your plan must include a workable method for cramming basic things like "stop discriminating against blind people" and "stop assisting marketers and spammers who want to gather data on Wikipedia users" down the throat of an unwilling and hostile WMF

18:29:49
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodeyeah, seems like someone I want to work with.18:30:04
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode😜18:30:53
31 May 2019
@mszabo-wikia:matrix.orgMåté Szabó
In reply to @hexmode:matrix.org

Earlier in the comments, Guy Macon talked about "creat[ing] an alternate front end". That seems more likely for what they are after, I wonder how plausible that would be.

Super plausible. Just use the APIs! Most people just do something like create a better looking display.

we use an SPA to serve our mobile experience so technically it's not impossible, but it does require some setup + it means you lose most of the extension ecosystem benefits so it only makes sense IMHO in contexts like mobile where it is less of a concern
08:56:34
@tgr:matrix.orgtgrWikidata's new frontend is going to be all node services11:49:27
@tgr:matrix.orgtgrisomorphic rendering and all that11:49:44
@tgr:matrix.orgtgrin theory it makes a lot of sense11:50:10
@tgr:matrix.orgtgrin practice people usually try to implement it by working around MediaWiki core instead of adding support to core, because that would be more work11:50:59
@tgr:matrix.orgtgrand then bleed out from a thousand little maintenance cuts11:51:21
4 Jun 2019
@bryandamon:matrix.orgbryandamonI think open access to science is very important. Fortunately, so do many others including some Wikimedians that have been publishing scientific papers within Wikiversity (WikiJournal of Science/Medicine/Humanities).<br /> They are now trying to create an independent sister site and have a proposal on meta to do so. Please take some time to review their proposal and lend your support if you agree.<br /> Also, from the 3rd party side, take a look at their "Technical requirements" section, I think many of these would be straightforward for us to implement, but I'm interested in your thoughts. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiJournal07:02:38
5 Jun 2019
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodeAnother org I'd like to get to wiki conferences: Tesla. Evidently they have a wiki.17:51:05
@jamesmontalvo3:matrix.orgjamesmontalvo3“A wiki”. Mediawiki?17:52:53
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode I don't know that but given the person I talked to was interested in Wikpedia-for-intranet, I would say yes 17:53:44
@jamesmontalvo3:matrix.orgjamesmontalvo3Get to wiki conferences, host wiki conferences, support MWstake...18:02:23
@bryandamon:matrix.orgbryandamonI just reached out to a friend regarding Tesla.23:59:10
6 Jun 2019
@tgr:matrix.orgtgranyone going to Wikimania?17:42:01
@tgr:matrix.orgtgrthere is a partnerships section, would be nice to have some showcase of third-party MediaWiki in there: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Partnerships17:44:17
@freephile:matrix.orgrundganyone have an idea when today's security release will make it into the Release Branches (and eventually GitHub)?20:12:26
@freephile:matrix.orgrundghttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/history/REL1_32/20:12:49
@freephile:matrix.orgrundg

from the announcement:

will land
into the relevant branches as fast as our CI infrastructure allows.

20:12:57
@bryandamon:matrix.orgbryandamon tgr: 20:29:23
@bryandamon:matrix.orgbryandamon RE: Wikimania. Not I, but it would be nice to see someone working on the solution to scientific publishing go. Maybe Georgios Mavropalias ? 20:32:06
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgIt looks like the security patches have hit REL1_32 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/commits/REL1_3223:44:37
7 Jun 2019
@freephile:matrix.orgrundgMWStake Meeting starting in 3 minutes15:27:30
@freephile:matrix.orgrundghttps://mwstake.org/mwstake/wiki/Event:8915:27:47
@jamesmontalvo3:matrix.orgjamesmontalvo3 Sorry couldn’t make it today 15:54:57
8 Jun 2019
@nikerabbit:matrix.orgnikerabbitWhy does riot display messages out of order? Is it a bug or feature? Is there a better client?13:05:53
9 Jun 2019
@georgios:matrix.orgGeorgios Mavropalias
In reply to @bryandamon:matrix.org
tgr:
Thanks Bryan. Sadly when I talked to the local organiser a few days ago, Wikimania will probably not be held in Perth in 2020. I don't know why, it seemed a very good option considering that the other cities did not have such a detailed proposal https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2020
02:22:55
11 Jun 2019
@cicalese:matrix.orgcicalese @room Does anybody hear use or know of anybody else who uses MediaWiki with MSSQL and Oracle? 16:53:28
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodeNo, but I would check the recent commits to those backends.16:54:49

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