| 23 Mar 2021 |
|  Taavi Väänänen joined the room. | 19:37:30 |
| 24 Mar 2021 |
 cicalese | If you have not yet filled out the Wikimedia Developer Satisfaction Survey, please do so! The deadline has been extended to March 31. Click here: https://forms.gle/xj2jNUcP7kmSgtwV8. | 17:46:37 |
| 25 Mar 2021 |
 rundg | cicalese: solved Tom Harriman's Visual Editor on 1.35 problem in ~15 min!! It turned out to be a bad nginx configuration which we found by testing the API V1 and V3 urls | 18:48:54 |
| rundg | Woot! | 18:49:02 |
| cicalese | Awesome!! Thanks for helping him! I knew you were the correct person to point him to :-) | 18:52:11 |
| 28 Mar 2021 |
 Jeroen De Dauw | freephile: this issue https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263928? If so, can you share the fix on the ticket? Quite a few people running into that | 23:02:39 |
| Jeroen De Dauw | Wenn MediaWiki 36? | 23:03:00 |
| 29 Mar 2021 |
| rundg | That | 12:17:04 |
| rundg | * That's a busy ticket. I'll def read through and add knowledge. | 12:17:30 |
 hexmode | you know Confluence is going 100% SAAS, right? A friend at a local sizable IT department asked if I knew anyone who has done a Confluence -> MW migration. | 19:40:35 |
| hexmode | Do I? Do you? | 19:41:24 |
| hexmode | I feel like I need to ping people to get a quick response ☝️ | 19:41:59 |
| hexmode | freephile: any ideas? ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ | 19:43:48 |
| hexmode | I would ping cicalese but it looks like she's already seen it. Maybe Bryan Hilderbrand ? | 19:44:28 |
| rundg | I think the Confluence situation is what triggered Pega to adopt MediaWiki | 19:45:22 |
| hexmode | Do they have Confluence? Have you converted any wiki stuff? | 19:45:50 |
| rundg | The downside is that they started out without any knowledge of MediaWiki and started specifying a MediaWiki that looks and acts like Confluence | 19:46:24 |
| rundg | Haven't imported anything. I believe the strategy at the moment is to re-create everything | 19:48:46 |
| 30 Mar 2021 |
 tgr | was Confluence ever not SAAS? | 16:54:18 |
| tgr | or is it that they don't offer an on-premise version anymore? | 16:54:31 |
 bryandamon | They used to have both (Cloud and On-Premise), here's what their pricing page says now and another link:
- Important changes to our server and Data Center products - We’ve ended sales for new server licenses and will end support for server on February 2, 2024. We’re continuing investment in Data Center with several key improvements.
| 17:12:08 |
 richardheigl | For on premises, only the data center license is offered. This is too expensive for normal companies | 17:56:17 |
| hexmode | The company my friend works at is not a small concern. He manages the admins who control Confluence. It may help if they see a slide deck for BlueSpice, richardheigl. Do you have anything about it vs Confluence? | 18:41:30 |
| rundg | I don't have access to the exact pricing info, but I believe my company was looking at a $400K/yr license fee for Confluence | 19:24:45 |
| 1 Apr 2021 |
 Jeffrey Wang (MyWikis) | Tax question: is MWStake a 501(c)(3)? | 00:11:31 |
| bryandamon | 501(c)(6) | 00:14:06 |
| Jeffrey Wang (MyWikis) | Thank you | 04:43:53 |
 justinl | Hey all, I'm getting an error at the exact same spot in an SMW rebuildData.php script run, it takes 5-6 hours to get to the same failure spot so it's hard to test and repro quickly: Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError from line 1699 of /srv/www/sites/gw2w-en/includes/libs/rdbms/database/Database.php: Error 1114: The table 't1' is full. I'm guessing this is about temp table sizes. AWS Aurora's default is 16 MB, so I increased it to 32 MB but still fails. Is my assumption correct? Any thoughts? | 15:25:01 |
| justinl | FWIW the table in question is smw_object_ids and it has about 1.76 million rows. | 15:26:27 |
| justinl | Also FWIW the query that fails is INSERT IGNORE INTO t1 SELECT DISTINCT t2.smw_id FROM smw_object_ids AS t2 WHERE t2.smw_sortkey<='span class=\"smw-format list-format \"><span class=\"smw-row\"><span class=\"smw-field\"><span class=\"smw-value\">Auric Basin</span></span></span>' | 15:58:00 |
