| 21 Jan 2021 |
 hexmode | louispitingolo: Is there anything above that line that starts with #0?
Did you try adding the following to the top of your LocalSettings.php like Bryan Hilderbrand suggested:
error_reporting( -1 );
ini_set( 'display_errors', 1 );
$wgShowExceptionDetails = true;
$wgShowSQLErrors = true;
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| 22 Jan 2021 |
| hexmode | 
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 bryandamon | AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana | 07:05:05 |
 revi | (Some popcorn meme) it's becoming funny to see who wins in the end :-p | 07:06:29 |
 cicalese | Vue.js and MediaWiki: https://techblog.wikimedia.org/2021/01/22/2020-the-year-in-vue/ | 19:40:15 |
| cicalese | Do any of you all use $wgSharedDB to share the user table between multiple wikis? | 19:56:10 |
| hexmode | I have not used it, Does MEZA? freephile darenwelsh ? | 20:03:51 |
 rundg | Meza uses it | 20:10:16 |
| rundg | If you specify a 'primary wiki' it sets up wgSharedDB | 20:10:36 |
| cicalese | And presumably it is still working? | 20:13:10 |
| rundg | presumably, but I don't think it's well documented, or used | 20:13:55 |
| rundg | revansx: used this at some point | 20:14:15 |
| cicalese | Apparently that feature was deprecated in 2012, and I heard a suggestion that it be removed. I'm quite sure I've heard of folks using it more recently than that. But, the developer thinks it has been broken for ages. I would like some confirmation if it has been used recently. | 20:15:59 |
| rundg | Anecdotally I can say that I /think/ I tried using it once and it seemed broken so I never got far with it. | 20:29:39 |
| rundg | (that was at least a couple years ago) | 20:30:25 |
| cicalese | Thanks for the feedback! | 21:14:20 |
 revansx | In reply to @freephile:matrix.org
revansx: used this at some point I tested it (wgSharedDB) with MEZA 2 years ago and it worked, but I didn't like it and re-build my site without it. Sadly I don't think I can ever use cross-wiki notification unless I somehow convert back to wgSharedDB. that sucks | 22:41:16 |
| 23 Jan 2021 |
 tgr | cicalese: I thought it was used pretty widely? Wikimedia wikis use CentralAuth and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CentralAuth explicitly recommends people to use $wgSharedDB instead. (Also this is the first time I hear it's deprecated - whoever did it apparently haven't bothered to update the wiki page.) | 02:11:30 |
| cicalese | @tgr I was surprised, too, since I thought there were people using it, which is why I asked. Upon further discussion, there is no intention to deprecate it at this point. | 02:30:26 |
| tgr | To be fair, it is a big hack, and something like RenameUser will make it explode in your face. But having SSO is a very reasonable user expectation and I don't think there is a better approach today. Hopefully we'll find the resources some day to make a sane CentralAuth replacement - there would be plenty of first-party reasons to do it. | 03:04:46 |
| cicalese | Absolutely. | 03:07:18 |
| cicalese | I'll add that having a shared user table or CentralAuth are not necessary for many of the frequent commenters in this group because they use PluggableAuth (or other authentication extension) that uses an external identity provider to give a shared username across wikis in their wiki farms. This does not give users the same user id across wikis, but that is mostly irrelevant to them. | 15:23:53 |
| hexmode | 
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| hexmode | Grant Ingersoll (above) is WMF and has some thoughts on ElasticSearch | 18:57:02 |
| hexmode | https://twitter.com/gsingers/status/1352630254632800257 | 18:57:20 |
| hexmode | Best bit so far: "[Elasticsearch] want[s] all the upside w/ none of the risk." | 19:00:52 |
| hexmode | * Grant Ingersoll (above) is WMF (and former Lucidworks CTO) and has some thoughts on ElasticSearch. | 19:03:36 |
| 24 Jan 2021 |
| tgr | In reply to @cicalese:matrix.org
I'll add that having a shared user table or CentralAuth are not necessary for many of the frequent commenters in this group because they use PluggableAuth (or other authentication extension) that uses an external identity provider to give a shared username across wikis in their wiki farms. This does not give users the same user id across wikis, but that is mostly irrelevant to them. Shared tables give you central email management, which external login might not. Not a huge deal but nice. | 01:47:37 |
| tgr | As for user ID, any functionality were identical IDs accross wikis might be useful should use CentralIDLookup which does work with external identity providers. | 01:48:31 |
| revansx | I don’t know why cross-site notifications isn’t more of a thing. That’s the only reason I’d want to have shared tables. | 05:17:18 |
