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19 Mar 2020
@rheingoldriver:matrix.orgrheingoldrivero also same06:00:04
@rheingoldriver:matrix.orgrheingoldriverincluding on desktop with the mobile link06:00:08
@bryandamon:matrix.orgbryandamon But here:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki?debug=true
06:00:11
@bryandamon:matrix.orgbryandamonBoth mobile06:00:28
@samwilson:matrix.orgsamwilsonI can't figure it out.07:22:22
@samwilson:matrix.orgsamwilsonGiving up. It's friday arvo here.07:22:44
20 Mar 2020
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodeI hope everyone is still alive. It has gotten really quiet in here this past week16:01:52
@darenwelsh:matrix.orgdarenwelshthat's an extreme version of the common telecon phrase "Can everyone hear me?" Are we doing a roll call?16:08:32
@shawndouglas:matrix.orgshawndouglasPing16:18:33
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode darenwelsh: if I see people's avatars move, I'll assume they're alive. but pings are always good 16:42:52
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodeI'm just afraid that CV got someone.16:43:21
@darenwelsh:matrix.orgdarenwelshwell, that would be awful. But why don't we start by trying to make sure everyone is doing okay. Does anyone need anything? I don't know how to ping the entire room.16:52:17
@bryandamon:matrix.orgbryandamonAdmin needs to do it I think, but it's something like @room16:59:59
@cicalese:matrix.orgcicalese@room See above. Does anybody need anything? We hope everybody is OK!17:22:12
24 Mar 2020
* @saper:converser.eusaper just got even a book sent over from the United States all the way to Germany. Not using Amazon!12:07:53
@gharbeia:matrix.orgAlifA question regarding the behaviour of the job queue: When there are jobs in the queue of a type refreshLinks pending for a template and a given page, and the template is once again edited, are new jobs of the same type and affected page queued? Is there a way to mitigate this overhead? I'm asking because I have a small number of templates that are used in every page, and while developing them I make small changes to the template. I'd rather not have the system continuously updating links over and over.20:07:33
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode A.Gharbeia: 22:40:24
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode * A.Gharbeia: how are you running your job queue? Most of those jobs shouldn't take much time. 22:40:55
25 Mar 2020
@jeroend:matrix.orgJeroen De DauwI'm looking for MW related surveys. Any done after https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/2015_MediaWiki_User_Survey ?11:14:28
@gharbeia:matrix.orgAlif
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A.Gharbeia: how are you running your job queue? Most of those jobs shouldn't take much time.
I crontab it>
But one of my wiki has 15k pages using the same template to display information.
I change something and the system goes into frenzy for days. Full CPU utilisation.
17:40:16
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17:43:05
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode Jeroen De Dauw: none that I know of, but maybe you could team up with #mwstake to do another one 17:51:36
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmodewhich is something we've discussed...17:51:46
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode A.Gharbeia: I don't know what to tell you, I have a couple sizable wikis using cron to run their jobqueue but haven't seen anything like that 17:53:39
@hexmode:matrix.orghexmode(or maybe I have but the jobs usually run on a separate server...)17:54:03
* @hexmode:matrix.orghexmode is terrible about monitoring17:54:18
@tgr:matrix.orgtgr Jeroen De Dauw: quite a few, what exactly are you looking for? 20:09:31
@tgr:matrix.orgtgrthere's https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights/Reports , there was the WMF RelEng developer survey a year ago20:15:35
26 Mar 2020
@bryandamon:matrix.orgbryandamon changed their display name from bryandamon to Bryan Hilderbrand.01:49:57
@jeroend:matrix.orgJeroen De Dauw hexmode: maybe yes. Thanks for the offer 12:23:40

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