| 26 Mar 2020 |
 Jeroen De Dauw | tgr: I'm interested in third party usage of the MediaWiki software, especially that in businesses | 12:24:06 |
 tgr | Jeroen De Dauw: in that case the user survey hexmode mentioned is probably the latest. The other surveys are all developer-oriented. | 15:17:21 |
 hexmode | Jeroen De Dauw: Would you like to join our meeting next Friday to discuss this and get it moving forward? | 15:18:52 |
| hexmode | I think this is something we'd all be interested in. | 15:19:16 |
| hexmode | tgr: how much do you know about extensions and dependency injection? | 15:22:59 |
| hexmode | Is it ok to override core services with dependency injection? | 15:23:19 |
| hexmode | (and by "override" I just mean that I want to have it configured a bit differently.) | 15:34:43 |
| Jeroen De Dauw | hexmode: already on my calendar. In general I want to join all the meetings. Bit annoyed there does not seem to be a way to have them show in my google calendar any more | 15:40:48 |
| hexmode | Jeroen De Dauw: good to know. I can send you a recurring invite or a link that you can add so the mwstake calendar is in your calendar | 15:42:31 |
| hexmode | (but not right now since I have to figure it out again and I'm in the middle of something else.) | 15:42:55 |
| tgr | hexmode: as a site owner, totally | 16:35:26 |
| tgr | as an extension, keep in mind that two different extensions overriding the same service usually wouldn't go well | 16:35:52 |
| tgr | so it should only be done when really necessary | 16:36:12 |
| hexmode | Ugh apache is segfaulting | 20:10:51 |
| 27 Mar 2020 |
 cicalese | Please feel free to retweet https://twitter.com/CindyCicalese/status/1243603002889560064. Let's get the word out about EMWCon! | 18:17:56 |
 Charly | Done! | 18:24:51 |
| cicalese | Thank you! | 18:27:18 |
| 28 Mar 2020 |
| Jeroen De Dauw | Looks like the 2015 MW user survey used Google Forms. I'm curious why that software was chosen and if it is recommended after using it for that survey. | 14:28:26 |
 darenwelsh | ckoerner: did you help with that survey? | 14:43:46 |
| hexmode | IIRC, most WMF used Google forms then | 16:11:57 |
| darenwelsh | How do you guys handle "stuck" jobs in the queue? | 16:26:34 |
 bryandamon | @darenwelsh:matrix.org: delete jobs from the job table in the database. Would love to know about a non-server version. | 17:00:29 |
| darenwelsh | and when you delete that job from the table, does a new job get generated in its place? I mean, how do you know you didn't just lose some important update that will not get done now? | 17:01:24 |
| darenwelsh | I have done that before, long ago, but want to better understand what I'm doing. | 17:01:44 |
| Jeroen De Dauw |
and when you delete that job from the table, does a new job get generated in its place?
I highly doubt that
| 17:03:19 |
| darenwelsh | so, are there other ways to handle stuck job queue issues? | 17:06:28 |
| darenwelsh | simply running one or all of the rebuildData scripts isn't such a great option since it takes forever on large wikis. | 17:07:01 |
|  Marijn van Wezel changed their display name from xxmarijnw to Marijn van Wezel. | 17:08:50 |
| Marijn van Wezel set a profile picture. | 17:08:51 |
| tgr | what do you mean by stuck? failed jobs should be retried automatically | 17:11:55 |
