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10 May 2021
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11 May 2021
@telegram_204593863:tchncs.deErwin Olario (Telegram)Cool! 😎10:25:59
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10:28:47
@telegram_872095296:tchncs.dePieter Vander Vennet (Telegram)Jup! Quite a bump there! For last month, I saw around 260 visits on the surveillance theme - seems like that one is consulted regularly... And arbres de Llefia is doing pretty good as well - even better then cyclofix ;)10:30:22
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@telegram_34914820:tchncs.deSebastian (Telegram)Hello everybody, I recently discovered MapComplete and together with my colleague we're now using it as a building block in our project. We're creating a set of tools for fire fighters that help them fight wildfires. A key constraint is that the main app we're developing needs to work offline so that it can be used in rural areas where mobile internet access is a big problem (at least is in the area where we are testing it, the federal state Brandenburg, Germany).14:16:43
@telegram_34914820:tchncs.deSebastian (Telegram)I currently envision a custom MapComplete theme as the data management solution for the fire fighters so that they can update sources of water supply, which is important information for them. We forked the hailhydrant theme and plan to modify and extend it in such a way that all information relevant to the local fire fighters can be mapped using it conveniently and using visual language that is already familiar to them. I'm assuming that signs used for hydrants, suction points etc vary locally and we try to create a set of map markers that match the local reality here in Germany. It will hopefully make it rather easy for most of the fire fighters to contribute and be a good starting point for those of them that want to contribute a lot to learn about the advanced editors later on, once they're convinced it's worth doing that.14:16:44
@telegram_34914820:tchncs.deSebastian (Telegram) if anyone wants to take a look, it's deployed here:
https://waldbrand-app.de/mapcomplete/waldbrand.html
and this is our fork of the code and theme:
https://github.com/waldbrand/MapComplete
14:20:52
@telegram_34914820:tchncs.deSebastian (Telegram)It's quite possible some of what we're doing could be used to improve or localize the hailhydrant theme itself14:28:21
@telegram_204593863:tchncs.deErwin Olario (Telegram)
In reply to Sebastian (Telegram)
It's quite possible some of what we're doing could be used to improve or localize the hailhydrant theme itself
I can see that, too. For starters, the German language translation strings would be great! :)
14:31:57
@telegram_204593863:tchncs.deErwin Olario (Telegram)
In reply to Sebastian (Telegram)
Hello everybody, I recently discovered MapComplete and together with my colleague we're now using it as a building block in our project. We're creating a set of tools for fire fighters that help them fight wildfires. A key constraint is that the main app we're developing needs to work offline so that it can be used in rural areas where mobile internet access is a big problem (at least is in the area where we are testing it, the federal state Brandenburg, Germany).
Other mobile offline tools you might want to check out: OsmAnd, OSM Contributor
14:36:00
@telegram_34914820:tchncs.deSebastian (Telegram)
In reply to Erwin Olario (Telegram)
I can see that, too. For starters, the German language translation strings would be great! :)
Yes, good point, I'll try to add them soon and create a pull request
14:36:56
@telegram_204593863:tchncs.deErwin Olario (Telegram)👌14:43:12
@joost_schouppe:matrix.orgjoost_schouppeNice work! BTW, you don't need a full fork to work on your own theme. You can just have the main instance show your theme using an URL like https://mapcomplete.osm.be/?userlayout=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/waldbrand/MapComplete/master/assets/themes/waldbrand/waldbrand.json15:09:53
@joost_schouppe:matrix.orgjoost_schouppeHave you thought at all about how you'll approach the off-line aspect?15:10:24
@telegram_34914820:tchncs.deSebastian (Telegram)
In reply to @joost_schouppe:matrix.org
Nice work! BTW, you don't need a full fork to work on your own theme. You can just have the main instance show your theme using an URL like https://mapcomplete.osm.be/?userlayout=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/waldbrand/MapComplete/master/assets/themes/waldbrand/waldbrand.json
yes, thanks, I have indeed seen that. It's possible we end up with a version that just works on the main instance as well. I think the main reason for setting up a full instance is that our user testing might make us want to try modifying some of the bits that aren't easily changeable by a theme. Although I'm not even sure what that is going to be, I wanted to be able to move quickly should it become necessary
15:23:06
@telegram_34914820:tchncs.deSebastian (Telegram)
In reply to @joost_schouppe:matrix.org
Have you thought at all about how you'll approach the off-line aspect?
a bit, yes. We'll evaluate what's possible with OsmAnd and also take another look around what else could be a basis for our app. On the other hand, we have our own technology that I used for the last ~10 years to build offline maps for Android. I'm a bit biased to just use the offline mapping technology I developed myself, but for the sake of making quick progress, I think it'll be very good to evaluate other solutions before making such important decisions. The main reason in favor of our own technology is that I know it very well and will be able to quickly adapt it to our needs
15:36:22
@telegram_872095296:tchncs.dePieter Vander Vennet (Telegram)
In reply to Erwin Olario (Telegram)
I can see that, too. For starters, the German language translation strings would be great! :)
Their translations for the general app have been upstreamed already
16:09:17
@telegram_872095296:tchncs.dePieter Vander Vennet (Telegram)
In reply to Sebastian (Telegram)
a bit, yes. We'll evaluate what's possible with OsmAnd and also take another look around what else could be a basis for our app. On the other hand, we have our own technology that I used for the last ~10 years to build offline maps for Android. I'm a bit biased to just use the offline mapping technology I developed myself, but for the sake of making quick progress, I think it'll be very good to evaluate other solutions before making such important decisions. The main reason in favor of our own technology is that I know it very well and will be able to quickly adapt it to our needs
Cool! Which technology is that?
16:10:04
@telegram_872095296:tchncs.dePieter Vander Vennet (Telegram)Also: OsmAnd is pretty flexible and open to improvements16:10:18
@telegram_34914820:tchncs.deSebastian (Telegram)
In reply to Pieter Vander Vennet (Telegram)
Cool! Which technology is that?
I recently open-sourced the app itself and the underlying libraries that are used in preparation of reusing it for this project. The map database engine is called [mapocado](https://github.com/topobyte/mapocado), it's pretty similar to mapsforge, if you know that, basically a binary vector feature database and rendering engine. The search database engine is called [nomioc](https://github.com/topobyte/nomioc), which is based on sqlite. And then the app which binds the two together: [stadtplan-app](https://github.com/topobyte/stadtplan-app), a native Android app. If you want to try it, it's probably best to just download one of the city maps created from the app template, such as this one for [Berlin](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.topobyte.apps.offline.stadtplan.berlin)
16:22:41
@telegram_872095296:tchncs.dePieter Vander Vennet (Telegram)Cool stuff!16:29:26
@telegram_58869584:tchncs.deH Ramos (Telegram)could it be possible to test nomioc with...OSM Database?17:14:38
@telegram_34914820:tchncs.deSebastian (Telegram)It's specifically designed for OSM data, yes, but I guess it's a bit off topic here. I can send you some pointers in a private message17:55:49
@telegram_34914820:tchncs.deSebastian (Telegram)* It's specifically designed for OSM data, yes, but I guess it's a bit off topic here. I can send you some pointers in a private message17:56:05
12 May 2021
@telegram_872095296:tchncs.dePieter Vander Vennet (Telegram) Version 0.7.2 is deployed. It features a german landing page (thanks @sebkur and @mozita), a colour picking element (set the type of your freeform field to 'color') and various small improvements 18:55:25

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