| 8 Mar 2024 |
 patsy | * I have decided to make three lagers. One will be a regular bohemian pils but I haven't decided for the others yet. | 15:13:25 |
 @nagel:matrix.org | A red ale with a lot of Nelson Sauvin is already in bottles. Next project is to make a Stout and a Porter at the same time with my neighbours on the little public square next door. We need better and warmer weather for this though. | 17:17:24 |
| patsy | Sounds awesome! | 18:19:18 |
| patsy | I have some Nelson Sauvin in the freezer but haven't used any yet. | 18:19:47 |
 wolverine | Some light ale for the music-festival season (in front of the tv). | 18:20:26 |
| patsy | Hehe, when I was young I used to mix baked beans in tomato sauce with moonshine on music festivals for breakfast. Like an unholy Bloody Mary. | 18:22:48 |
| patsy | In reply to @nagel:matrix.org
A red ale with a lot of Nelson Sauvin is already in bottles. Next project is to make a Stout and a Porter at the same time with my neighbours on the little public square next door. We need better and warmer weather for this though. It still sounds like you live somewhere warmer than mid Sweden if you consider that?! | 18:23:33 |
| wolverine | In reply to @patsy:matrix.org
Hehe, when I was young I used to mix baked beans in tomato sauce with moonshine on music festivals for breakfast. Like an unholy Bloody Mary. It's a miracle that you survived 🤣 | 18:23:54 |
| patsy | The best way to get energy and booze in the morning. | 18:24:38 |
| patsy | What is Nelson Sauvin best for? | 18:26:16 |
| wolverine | Old saying here: "The most important thing is that the pants can take it." | 18:26:36 |
| wolverine | In reply to @patsy:matrix.org
What is Nelson Sauvin best for? I'd go for some wheat beer. | 18:27:08 |
| wolverine | In reply to @wolverine:chat.wolvnet.de
I'd go for some wheat beer. something like https://schneider-weisse.de/en/node/55 | 18:28:32 |
| @nagel:matrix.org | In reply to @patsy:matrix.org
It still sounds like you live somewhere warmer than mid Sweden if you consider that?! Yes, it's Hamburg. so for you it's way done south. Right now a just about freezing but definetely a bit of springtime in the air. | 19:12:53 |
| wolverine | In reply to @nagel:matrix.org
Yes, it's Hamburg. so for you it's way done south. Right now a just about freezing but definetely a bit of springtime in the air. waves from the Alps to Hamburg 👋 | 19:27:02 |
| @nagel:matrix.org | In reply to @patsy:matrix.org
I have some Nelson Sauvin in the freezer but haven't used any yet. That have been the problem here as well. Some time ago I used the hop for a light summer ale. The idea for the last beer is inspired from Brewdogs Alpha Dog: https://brewdogrecipes.com/recipes/alpha-dog - When bottling it, I liked the taste and smell a lot, but you only know for sure after some weeks. | 19:33:30 |
| patsy | Hmm, Weiss and light ale. Maybe good for a witbier? But I guess the hop isn't that important there. | 19:42:56 |
| @nagel:matrix.org | In reply to @patsy:matrix.org
Hmm, Weiss and light ale. Maybe good for a witbier? But I guess the hop isn't that important there. It has been done before: https://brauerei.mueggelland.de/rezeptdetails/items/29284.html (German, but you probably get the important things ...) - The Nelson Sauvin is special, in my opinion definetely best with lighter/smoother beers. I also wouldn't mix it with too much other hops. | 20:08:41 |
| 22 Mar 2024 |
| patsy | So, one modern lager and one märzen fermenting right now. Two more lagers to go according to plan. One will be a pilsner. Any suggestions for the second? | 13:28:13 |
| @nagel:matrix.org | How is "modern lager" defined? (Suggestions: I'd opt for a black lager to get some roast flavours into the selection.) | 16:26:52 |
 Gnuxie 💜🐝 | +1 on black lager | 16:27:32 |
| Gnuxie 💜🐝 | I brewed one recently following https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTP9xaLPgZk but with https://brulosophy.com/methods/lager-method/#:~:text=%7C%20THE%20METHOD%20%7C&text=Chill%20wort%20to%20pitching%20temp,is%20at%20least%2050%25%20attenuated. Turned out the best beer I've made so far. | 16:29:04 |
| 27 Mar 2024 |
| patsy | Well, modern lager, to me, just means more hoppy. But I'm often wrong so please correct me if so. | 09:16:55 |
| patsy | Maybe a schwarzbier then, huh? I know my neighbour brew one a couple of days ago so I can check with him as well. | 09:17:46 |
| patsy | I just realised that I still have chopped and frozen rhubarb in the freezer so I might use David Heath's Raspberry Sour recipe where I substitute the raspberry with rhubarb and make that first. | 09:19:38 |
| 29 Mar 2024 |
 ricardo | Hey and cheers to all, long time lurker 🍻
+2 for dark lager. We brewed our first lager beer ever last year, a "Dunkles Bockbier" (dark bock) bock just denoting a stronger beer, there's also Doppelbock that is even stronger. It came out by far our best as well.
Here is [the recipe](https://www.maischemalzundmehr.de/index.php?inhaltmitte=recipe&id=425&suche_sorte=Dunkles+Bockbier&factoraw=25&factorsha=63&factorhav=10) (German as well) note that the roasted malt should be added only for the last 15 minutes of mash cooking (at 72 Celsius), it's down in the comments which we overlooked first time we made it so we had to redo it a second time a week later 😉
Both came out delicious, the second one had a tiny bit less harsher roast flavor and was more round and chocolatey. Both mellowed very well over time, can easily take 6 months of aging, and were just fantastic in the end. | 10:03:11 |
| patsy | Nice! It will definitely be a pilsner and a schwarzbier next then. | 10:10:10 |
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