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All about VoIP, SIP, VoLTE and dealing with ITSPs - InternetTelephonyServiceProviders, and the devices or software we use. It is an ☞ ؟⸮UNOFFICIAL⸮؟ tech' general discussion; we are unaffiliated with New Vector or any ITSP. ••• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_telephony_service_provider ° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENUM#System_details ° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAPTR_record#Example ° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.164 ° https://enumquery.com/ ••• Some info' resources: https://www.voip-info.org/ ° A few test SIPs: https://thetestcall.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-test-numbers.html?m=1 ° A good info' Wiki, albiet for one ITSP: https://wiki.voip.ms/article/Welcome ° LinPhone Wiki Tags have RSS Feeds: https://wiki.linphone.org/xwiki/wiki/public/ ••• Room History is "World Readable" by anyone. → https://view.matrix.org/alias/%23VoIP:matrix.org ••• Listed: https://matrixstats.org/alias/%23VoIP:matrix.org ••• For sharing: #VoIp:matrix.org ° https://riot.im/app/#/room/#VoIP:matrix.org ° https://matrix.to/#/#wISPs:matrix.org [#VoIP:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/#VoIP:matrix.org) ••• Keywords/Tags: #VoIP #SIP #VoLTE #DID #PSTN #POTS #ISDN #FixedWireless #ITSPs #InternetTelephonyServiceProviders #ITSP #InternetTelephonyServiceProvider #ENUM #E.164 ••••7 Servers

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5 Nov 2018
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10 Nov 2018
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10:01:39@axx:jaccu.seaxxhi everyone, quick question, in my turnserver.conf configuration for coturn, should my realm be turn.jaccu.se or turn.matrix.jaccu.se ?
10:02:17@axx:jaccu.seaxxmy synapses real domain is matrix.jaccu.se but my users are :just on accu.se
15:16:08@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌Do you have conventional VoIP service on there, with SIP subscribers, in addition to Matrix?
16:26:45@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌 I just wondered if it actually mattered for any ice/turn/coturn, about the subdomain, if those were for SIP-VoIP, or Matrix. I would think just i.e. turn.<domain>.<tld>, but IDK.
16:48:26@axx:jaccu.seaxx Nope, it's just coturn (+synapse)
11 Nov 2018
04:53:26@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌Group chat on for SIP accounts on sip.linphone.org got rolled into the latest release of LinPhone on F-Droid a couple weeks ago, AFAIK.
07:28:18@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌…Or so it seemed, looking at the changelog.
07:56:45@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌Oh, I see… It looks like you need to do that when you first set up the chat.
12 Nov 2018
00:20:16@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌 changed the room topic to "All about VoIP, SIP, VoLTE and dealing with ITSPs - InternetTelephonyServiceProviders, and the devices or software we use. It is an ☞ ؟⸮UNOFFICIAL⸮؟ tech' general discussion; we are unaffiliated with New Vector or any ITSP. ••• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_telephony_service_provider ° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENUM#System_details ° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAPTR_record#Example ° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.164 ° https://enumquery.com/ ••• Some info' resources: https://www.voip-info.org/ ° A few test SIPs: https://thetestcall.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-test-numbers.html?m=1 ° A good info' Wiki, albiet for one ITSP: https://wiki.voip.ms/article/Welcome ° LinPhone Wiki Tags have RSS Feeds: https://wiki.linphone.org/xwiki/wiki/public/ ••• Room History is "World Readable" by anyone. → https://view.matrix.org/alias/%23VoIP:matrix.org ••• Listed: https://matrixstats.org/alias/%23VoIP:matrix.org ••• For sharing: #VoIp:matrix.org ° https://riot.im/app/#/room/#VoIP:matrix.org ° https://matrix.to/#/#wISPs:matrix.org [#VoIP:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/#VoIP:matrix.org) ••• Keywords/Tags: #VoIP #SIP #VoLTE #DID #PSTN #POTS #ISDN #FixedWireless #ITSPs #InternetTelephonyServiceProviders #ITSP #InternetTelephonyServiceProvider #ENUM #E.164 ••••" from "All about VoIP, SIP, VoLTE and dealing with ITSPs - InternetTelephonyServiceProviders, and the devices or software we use. It is an ☞ ؟⸮UNOFFICIAL⸮؟ tech' general discussion; we are unaffiliated with New Vector or any ITSP. ••• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_telephony_service_provider ° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENUM#System_details ° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAPTR_record#Example ° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.164 ° https://enumquery.com/ ••• Some info' resources: https://www.voip-info.org/ ° A few test SIPs: https://thetestcall.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-test-numbers.html?m=1 ° A good info' Wiki, albiet for one ITSP: https://wiki.voip.ms/article/Welcome ••• Room History is "World Readable" by anyone. → https://view.matrix.org/alias/%23VoIP:matrix.org ••• Listed: https://matrixstats.org/alias/%23VoIP:matrix.org ••• For sharing: #VoIp:matrix.org ° https://riot.im/app/#/room/#VoIP:matrix.org ° https://matrix.to/#/#wISPs:matrix.org [#VoIP:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/#VoIP:matrix.org) ••• Keywords/Tags: #VoIP #SIP #VoLTE #DID #PSTN #POTS #ISDN #FixedWireless #ITSPs #InternetTelephonyServiceProviders #ITSP #InternetTelephonyServiceProvider #ENUM #E.164 ••••".
00:20:42@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌

Yeah multi-account on the LinPhone app' is way too still confusing.

Also I had problems trying to register more than one SIP account on one mailto: address. IDK if using an Authentication UserID might help.

Anyway I might setup Remote Provisioning for some I have on VoIP using LinPhone. It seems to just be per device and not per SIP Account. But it will allow much easier remote support.

00:44:03@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌 Nobabs27: That Remote Provisioning is probably better than Remote Desktop/Screen Sharing, for supporting friends & family, and I would trust that more.
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13 Nov 2018
01:02:37@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌axx: Did you figure out if there was a preferred subdomain, or if it is totally your option?
01:06:02@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌 Anyone know of a two-way test 'bot for testing SIP-VoIP chat? There are some test-call SIP Addresses out there that actually work, despite spotty information. There might be a few that even send a test chat message, one way. But I have not found any which reply to a,chat message, at least for testing.
01:28:21@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌Btw, on LinPhone with Group Chat, it looks like you may add users after it is first set up, but not add users to a 1:1 chat.
06:39:55@axx:jaccu.seaxx
In reply to @MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.org
axx: Did you figure out if there was a preferred subdomain, or if it is totally your option?
It looks like setting the turn realm to turn.domain.tld is good
06:40:22@axx:jaccu.seaxx Not sure why but it's working ok now
06:44:49@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌 Oh, good on ya'.
07:48:13@axx:jaccu.seaxxCheers
15:38:32@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌:)
15 Nov 2018
17:54:59@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌

This came up in another room…

Use VoIP as a fallback from Matrix. It is well supported, and will be more of a thing when the American FCC does the PSTN Sunset. It has group voice/video, and group multimedia chat, Push saves battery, although Matrix offers Public Rooms.

#VoIP:matrix.org

The LinPhone app' on…

#F-Droid:matrix.org

…is decent. But it is confusing with multiple SIP accounts. And remember to ONLY put one device on one SIP, and with linphone.org , only use one mailto: (e-mail) with one SIP account.

The hardest thing is choosing a ITSP (Internet Telephony Service Provider). And linphone.org , while free, offers no PSTN interconnect.

Vonage seems to be a rip off.

18:08:08@axx:jaccu.seaxxOVH is pretty decent, for ~2€ a month you get a phone number in one of several European countries of your choice, with PSTN / SIP connection
18:08:22@axx:jaccu.seaxx(and then you pay for extra SIP --> PSTN communications)
18:20:44@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌

Thanks.

Many referenced in USD$ go for about the same or less for a DID, and less than $0.01/minute outbound to PSTN terminations. IDK what they will do with eventual PSTN Sunset as most offer SIP to SIP for free.

You can go cheaper if you do not need a DID (Direct Inward Dial) a.k.a. dedicated PSTN number. But some discount SIP accounts expire if relatively unused. Others offer a "free" trial-only period. So Caveat Emptor.

18:22:08@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌And while iNum is a good idea, it is too bad those dialing you may pay high rates.
17 Nov 2018
08:41:35@MilkManzJourDaddy:matrix.orgMilkManzJourDaddy [99-Problems/A📌🚁/Falayalaralfali] 💥🔨 Castigare troglodytam. Malleo pugnae aviditate. 🌊👋🙋\o 💥🔨 ZFG 🙌banned@sudowudo:matrix.org@sudowudo:matrix.org (Annoying and abusive troll in rooms and DCs. Probably a ban evading Baffy or Sockpuppet of another NPC troll.).
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