| 28 Sep 2023 |
 Neeraj | Yes, the convert button won’t change the backed up files | 11:40:37 |
 randv77 | 😍😍😍😍 an e2ee contacts app, drop in replacement to google = music to my ears! 🙌 | 17:29:49 |
 s613 | In reply to @_discord_740038902047440928:t2bot.io
😍😍😍😍 an e2ee contacts app, drop in replacement to google = music to my ears! 🙌 Especially since Proton contacts is horrendous | 18:43:58 |
| randv77 | All products other than proton vpn are just full of shit from Proton | 20:42:07 |
 ph00lt0 | I am quite happy with proton mail tbh | 20:59:19 |
| ph00lt0 | And simplelogin is awesome | 20:59:39 |
| ph00lt0 | Proton pass is getting there | 20:59:46 |
| ph00lt0 | But the rest isn't all too great | 20:59:55 |
 green. | [hmm](https://kumu.io/sobeyharker/vpn-relationships?ref=blog.windscribe.com#vpn-company-relationships/protonvpn) | 21:31:04 |
| green. | 
Download image.png | 21:31:21 |
| green. | looks like a mix of their shit and maybe even shit from others | 21:31:53 |
| s613 | Speaking of Proton, I asked them why they don't create an index for search and store it on the cloud like ente days they'll do. Instead the user has to create the index on every device.
Here's what they answered: | 21:59:36 |
| s613 | 
Download Screenshot_20230928-165753_1.png | 21:59:37 |
| s613 | * Speaking of Proton, I asked them why they don't create an index for search and store it on the cloud like ente says they'll do. Instead the user has to create the index on every device.
Here's what they answered: | 21:59:56 |
| s613 | I wonder what the ente developers think | 22:00:24 |
| ph00lt0 | I mean that could be quite easily be mitigated | 22:03:18 |
| ph00lt0 | It's a good answer tbh but the mitigation is quite obvious | 22:03:38 |
| ph00lt0 | One can just add decoys | 22:03:58 |
| 29 Sep 2023 |
 Brogio (Fr_g) | Proton is pretty good, I don't really need more | 04:24:02 |
| Brogio (Fr_g) | I have Proton unlimited because the price is pretty much the same as Proton mail + simple login | 04:24:35 |
|  malcolm8101 joined the room. | 13:48:45 |
| malcolm8101 | I consistently get "Failed downloads" both on the desktop app and the website. Sometimes photos or gifs go through without a problem but often I have to try 5-10 times. Is there some trick I can do to help with this? | 13:53:04 |
 vishnukvmd | Hey Malcolm, sorry about that! Could you please share logs (Help > View logs) with support@ente.io the next time this happens? | 13:53:56 |
| malcolm8101 | Sure! It happens like 90% of the time so I have plenty of logs. lol. | 13:55:16 |
| vishnukvmd | Do email, will take a look and get back! | 13:55:50 |
| green. | maybe try using a different browser in the meantime | 14:03:22 |
| green. | i use firefox, works every time | 14:03:28 |
| malcolm8101 | Sounds good. I might try that. This happens with the Desktop App and Safari. | 14:03:50 |
| green. | ah yes, safari | 14:06:31 |
| green. | the browser that likes to ruin everything i love | 14:06:47 |
