| 12 Apr 2024 |
 digitaldog | In reply to @clover:ironrobin.net
What kind of difficulties do you think there would be? Can't be worse than samsara can it? š Depends, there is things like the initial awakening but doesn't seem to be full realisation. Like an intermediate place. And a person who has awakened can still be struggling to integrate, or be captured periodically in thought identification or find themselves dissociated, now in a different way | 18:51:54 |
 Mrtn | In reply to @digitaldog:matrix.org
Depends, there is things like the initial awakening but doesn't seem to be full realisation. Like an intermediate place. And a person who has awakened can still be struggling to integrate, or be captured periodically in thought identification or find themselves dissociated, now in a different way Are you thinking of the challenges some practitioners of for instance kandulini yoga has suffered from? | 18:53:15 |
| digitaldog | im not that familiar with kundalini yoga š
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| Mrtn | Maitrī I forget where you are from again? | 18:53:59 |
| Mrtn | In reply to @digitaldog:matrix.org
im not that familiar with kundalini yoga š
I'm probably spelling it worse than auto incorrect .... | 18:54:26 |
| Mrtn | In reply to @digitaldog:matrix.org
im not that familiar with kundalini yoga š
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf2DviQinQU | 18:59:40 |
 Dr. Robinson | Kundalini Yoga was one of the earliest forms of Tantra that I studied and yes it can be dangerous but not necessarily so it depends a lot on the teacher and how they teach. | 19:02:39 |
| Dr. Robinson | It should be pointed out though that Kundalini Yoga is Hinduism and that Buddhism has a different form of Tantra. | 19:03:19 |
| Dr. Robinson | Alan Watts said something of Interest here which is that insanity is the occupational hazard of the Mystic. | 19:04:02 |
| Mrtn | Many teachers, esp. in the west, doesn't teach it the traditional way, and they add a lot of stuff like colours, posters etc. | 19:04:22 |
| Mrtn | Which is both good and bad. Some of it can actually be helpful for some, but it is not always like that. | 19:05:37 |
| Dr. Robinson | Mrtn: that is true and unfortunately there are a lot of people in the West that use Tantra as an excuse for otherwise questionable Behavior. | 19:05:48 |
 Maitrī | In reply to @mrtnmrtn:matrix.org
Maitrī I forget where you are from again? I'm from and currently located in Houston | 19:05:57 |
| Mrtn | In reply to @clover:ironrobin.net
I'm from and currently located in Houston Ah ok. You must have figured out I was joking then. | 19:06:29 |
| Dr. Robinson | Maitrī: you should really come back to Bloomington. I would love to have you as a neighbor | 19:06:41 |
| Maitrī | In reply to @mrtnmrtn:matrix.org
Ah ok. You must have figured out I was joking then. Of course lol | 19:06:43 |
| Mrtn | In reply to @clover:ironrobin.net
Of course lol I really want 20 times as much, for cheap women. | 19:07:13 |
| Mrtn | š¤£ | 19:07:20 |
| Mrtn | Ok, I pulled this joke as far as it can go. | 19:07:37 |
| Maitrī | A good tantra student will take the sutra vows just as seriously if not more | 19:08:00 |
| Mrtn | Maitrī at any rate, I apologise for my primitive joke. Sometimes I cannot help myself it seems. | 19:09:15 |
| MaitrÄ« | The great Tibetan Guru Padmasambhava said, āThough the view should be as vast as the sky, keep your conduct as fine as barley flour.ā | 19:10:27 |
| Maitrī | The three yanas, theravada, mahayana, and vajrayana (tantra) are not distinct and separate paths but encapsulate each other like Russian dolls | 19:17:01 |
| Maitrī | In reply to @digitaldog:matrix.org
Depends, there is things like the initial awakening but doesn't seem to be full realisation. Like an intermediate place. And a person who has awakened can still be struggling to integrate, or be captured periodically in thought identification or find themselves dissociated, now in a different way Tibetans have a word for intermediate place. It's called the Bardo. And it's typically used to describe what the mind experiences between death and the next rebirth. It's usually described as a confusing and scary place if you don't know what you are doing. Basically that everything you see is made of self-arising, self-energy. | 19:26:15 |
| Maitrī | 
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| Maitrī | Basically that everything you see is your karmic appearance, which is dependant arising, which implies emptiness | 19:41:28 |
| Maitrī | Once you have fully realized emptiness your bonds are cut | 19:44:02 |
| Maitrī | That's the wisdom wing, the other wing being compassion | 19:46:04 |
| Maitrī | Compassionate activity is valid because it reflects reality which is that self and other don't exist independently | 19:47:52 |
| Maitrī | Compassion is actually all you need really. Realizing emptiness is actually the optional wing and will come along with realizing bodhicitta anyway | 19:53:50 |
