| 5 Dec 2023 |
 scorpion2185 | almost | 15:23:08 |
| scorpion2185 | i saw that there is a Kali image but idk how it works well and you can still use it | 15:24:53 |
| scorpion2185 | https://xdaforums.com/t/kali-nethunter-for-the-xperia-sp.3464067/ | 15:25:17 |
| scorpion2185 | so maybe i can get other linux to work? | 15:25:34 |
| 6 Dec 2023 |
 carbonatedcaffeine | If you do it yourself | 02:21:21 |
| carbonatedcaffeine changed their profile picture. | 02:21:22 |
 techwizz | Kali Nethunter is based on Android, not directly Linux | 07:25:25 |
| techwizz changed their display name from techwizz#0 to techwizz. | 07:25:25 |
 tqmatvey | If you don't know what Kali NetHunter is, well, it's the entire Kali Linux operating system in a chroot on your phone
it's just chroot, that is running on top of cyanogenmod | 07:44:53 |
| tqmatvey | 07:44:53 |
 deathmist_ | maybe that's the kernel people are looking for in ubports channels when they just say "helium kernel for <insert random 10 year old phone model> pls" | 10:13:57 |
| scorpion2185 | ah thank you all | 14:51:38 |
| 8 Dec 2023 |
 knightrider007 | Nope. Well, Nethunter-pro is real Linux. For the time being only runs on the Pinephone and Pinephone-pro https://www.kali.org/get-kali/#kali-mobile But, otherwise you are right regular Nethunter for all other devices, yes its only chroot on tip of android. | 03:44:47 |
| knightrider007 | * Nope. Well, Nethunter-pro is real Linux. For the time being only runs on the Pinephone and Pinephone-pro https://www.kali.org/get-kali/#kali-mobile But, otherwise you are right regular Nethunter for all other devices, yes its only chroot on top of android. | 03:45:02 |
| tqmatvey | I was mainly talking about his case | 03:45:42 |
| knightrider007 | https://github.com/Shubhamvis98/kali-pinephone Actually, the Kali-Nethunter-pinephone developer mentioned to me. He was working to port Kali to the SDM845 series. | 03:54:24 |
| 9 Dec 2023 |
| tqmatvey | i've seen it few months ago, no luck so far | 00:50:04 |
|  @c74:matrix.org joined the room. | 03:00:46 |
| @c74:matrix.org | Is there any documentation anywhere on Halium and privacy? | 03:17:09 |
| deathmist_ | if you trust the proprietary driver blobs (not android apps since those aren't running due to java being patched out from halium systemimages) from oem it's as private as the OS you run with them | 15:59:44 |
| deathmist_ | * if you trust the proprietary driver blobs (not android apps / java services since those aren't running due to java being patched out from halium systemimages) from oem it's as private as the OS you run with them | 16:00:03 |
| 10 Dec 2023 |
| scorpion2185 | would you trust proprietary driver blobs? | 12:23:31 |
 rogier.oudshoorn | everyone who wants a phone needs to | 13:02:00 |
| scorpion2185 | unless you use ancient phones without 3D accelleration | 13:09:12 |
| scorpion2185 | e.g. replicant | 13:10:16 |
| rogier.oudshoorn | there'll still be blobs on the modem, even for aincient stuff | 13:15:49 |
| rogier.oudshoorn | guess the only question is how much of it you'll trust | 13:17:18 |
 duckyondc | for me, open software(and preferably firmware but that's very rare on phones) is enough
the firmware being proprietary doesn't concern me all that much for some reason | 13:17:55 |
| scorpion2185 | there is some very old phone with free modem | 13:35:19 |
| deathmist_ | I do and have to if I want a properly functional phone without random deficits due to missing stuff in whatever (not to mention stability issues as became very apparent on later stages of msm8998 mainline) | 18:06:26 |
