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28 Jun 2022
@telegram_2068499682:t2bot.ioHarshil Sharma
In reply to bgo_eiu
Tentatively the Indian government POIs could be tagged with every official language of India (I don't remember the number but it's more than 10). That would require some research, I'm only familiar with the languages spoken in both Pakistan and India
Yes there are 22, Dogri being one of them (I being a native speaker). The Govt has recognized Devanagri as its official script. But Dogri has its own script too (Dogra Akkhar) which even has a Unicode now and Indian Railways has began its usage by writing on boards across all railway stations in Jammu division of J&K.
So should it be added as a tag?
18:45:41
@telegram_5545113338:t2bot.iobgo_eiuYes, definitely on those railway stations especially18:48:35
@telegram_3288122:t2bot.ioMuzirian
In reply to Harshil Sharma
Yes there are 22, Dogri being one of them (I being a native speaker). The Govt has recognized Devanagri as its official script. But Dogri has its own script too (Dogra Akkhar) which even has a Unicode now and Indian Railways has began its usage by writing on boards across all railway stations in Jammu division of J&K.
So should it be added as a tag?
Use english for name tag always in India, but we an add other language with name:iso
18:51:06
@telegram_5545113338:t2bot.iobgo_eiuLooks like there is only 3 uses of name:doi so far, would be good to add more. Could use name:doi-Deva and name:doi-Dogr if you wanted to tag the scripts separately using the ISO codes for them (and document it on the wiki whatever tags you use)18:54:37
@telegram_3288122:t2bot.ioMuzirianNeed to edit wiki to include dogri akkhat18:57:10
@telegram_3288122:t2bot.ioMuzirian* Need to edit wiki to include Dogri akkhar18:57:19
@telegram_2068499682:t2bot.ioHarshil Sharma
In reply to bgo_eiu
Looks like there is only 3 uses of name:doi so far, would be good to add more. Could use name:doi-Deva and name:doi-Dogr if you wanted to tag the scripts separately using the ISO codes for them (and document it on the wiki whatever tags you use)
Okayy
Thanks :)
19:22:51
@telegram_2068499682:t2bot.ioHarshil Sharma
In reply to bgo_eiu
Looks like there is only 3 uses of name:doi so far, would be good to add more. Could use name:doi-Deva and name:doi-Dogr if you wanted to tag the scripts separately using the ISO codes for them (and document it on the wiki whatever tags you use)
I'll help with this task
19:23:07
@telegram_5545113338:t2bot.iobgo_eiuQuestion I have - does anyone here know anything about where and how Asian Highway route shields are posted in India?19:25:20
29 Jun 2022
@telegram_30945347:t2bot.ioNikhil VJ
In reply to bgo_eiu
Question I have - does anyone here know anything about where and how Asian Highway route shields are posted in India?
this seems to be the main place for styling, rendering of the openstreetmap tiles. https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto . I can't find actual shield imagery at first glance, and can't tell if there's different shields for different regions being used.
00:35:43
@telegram_872538478:t2bot.ioसंकेत
In reply to Nikhil VJ
ok. Note that this isn't so much technical as it is political. As in: there will be mappers out there who are equally convinced that the "name" tag must be in the native language of that land and not in english. So this can turn into a tug of war, just FYI. Personally I think the general maps need to be in a common language so that outsiders (who may need the map more) can read it, and then local language version maps should be made available by ____ (the local governments? PPP? Vietnam has done this.) Right now looking at all the local lang labels I see in mid-east etc on OSM, I know for sure it's not viable for me to use OSM if I visit any of those places.
About the Middle East example, I think it is possible to use OSM, given that name:en tags are present and the app that you use allows you to select a specific display language (name:lang tag) instead of just the name tag.

I personally support using local language in name tag and additionally having name:en tag (which is standard in OSM worldwide, I guess).
In India I’ve observed that many places don’t have name:en tag which I think can be improved (even if the name tag itself has the English name).
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@telegram_828989343:t2bot.ioHeinz Vieth
In reply to Nikhil VJ
my vote is always for mapping roads, as in my professional work there's lots of road routing and i really want the businesses in India to stop sending millions to Google each year. (pay me to set up an osm routing engine for u instead lol)
Yes road mapping is really important. But without place names routing is quite difficult/impossible.
See the last table on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_internationalization_(India).
Quite poor results. Only in (GJ), KA, KL,RJ there are many local names.
We need to motivate mappers to map roads and village names.
04:54:34
@telegram_828989343:t2bot.ioHeinz Vieth Maybe this is useful:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation_Diff 05:16:47
@telegram_828989343:t2bot.ioHeinz ViethSorry: wrong group!!05:17:33
@telegram_30945347:t2bot.ioNikhil VJ
In reply to Heinz Vieth
Yes road mapping is really important. But without place names routing is quite difficult/impossible.
See the last table on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_internationalization_(India).
Quite poor results. Only in (GJ), KA, KL,RJ there are many local names.
We need to motivate mappers to map roads and village names.
nope. place/road names only come up when you want turn by turn directions, in that too there's ways of getting around. that's only 1 of many applications of road routing. all others get done without needing it.
05:35:09
@telegram_30945347:t2bot.ioNikhil VJ* nope. place/road names only come up when you want turn by turn directions, in that too there's ways of getting around. that's only 1 of many applications of road routing. all others get done without needing it. if one just draws the road on OSM and gives it any generic highway tag, job is done05:35:42
@telegram_828989343:t2bot.ioHeinz ViethThanks to all Facebook mappers VLD xyz. They mapped many roads.05:50:38
@telegram_1772067978:t2bot.ioSreeram KAnyone knows if the fb folks are using rapid or josm?05:56:02
@telegram_1772067978:t2bot.ioSreeram KWe can probably add pmgsy data as another source for that editor along with the satellite predictions05:56:56
@telegram_1772067978:t2bot.ioSreeram KThey seem to be very active in India..06:00:27
@telegram_1772067978:t2bot.ioSreeram K https://disaster.ninja/live/?utm_source=medium_blog&utm_medium=article&utm_campaign=disasterninja_for_hot#id=7854bfd5-8756-439b-ac6f-1ce69c874eb8;position=80.23904403290544,23.358955329168637;zoom=5.104324316939223 06:00:35
@telegram_828989343:t2bot.ioHeinz Vieth
In reply to Sreeram K
Anyone knows if the fb folks are using rapid or josm?
Most use ID; very activce also JOSM
06:08:13
@telegram_1772067978:t2bot.ioSreeram K
In reply to Heinz Vieth
Most use ID; very activce also JOSM
Rapid does seem to have an option to add additional datasets listed here - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Esri/ArcGIS_Datasets.
06:39:18
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06:39:40
@telegram_828989343:t2bot.ioHeinz ViethMy way to map village names(always at once only a subdistrict): 1) mapping of all residential areas 2) names from Bharatmaps 3) pgmsy as an additional layer: names that are still missing (but individual control) 4) SOI as additional layer for still missing names06:48:57
@telegram_828989343:t2bot.ioHeinz ViethMRSAC can solve still existing problems06:49:31
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