| 11 Aug 2021 |
 gnupluslinux | But why | 17:05:23 |
| gnupluslinux | Common Lisp is written in C | 17:05:33 |
 David | In reply to @gnupluslinux:matrix.org
Common Lisp is written in C Common Lisp is a standard that's been implemented in several different languages. | 17:36:18 |
 Myon | Depends on what C you are talking about | 17:40:31 |
| gnupluslinux | Sbcl, ccl bootstrap with C
Ecl - C
Allegro, Lispworks -??? | 17:45:48 |
| gnupluslinux | SICL 100% CL but not developed | 17:46:20 |
 akater | I think Movitz doesn't need any C. | 18:29:49 |
 Luís Oliveira | SBCL bootstraps from C and Common Lisp. (A C compiler alone is not enough.) | 18:34:44 |
 Irvise | I think GNU Mes is written in assembly. | 18:41:01 |
 Mrtn | In reply to @cthulhux:matrix.org
If you like freedom, try OpenBSD. Unlike Linux, its head developer and the surrounding foundation are from Canada, not from the US, and the license is much more liberal.
So the correct question would be: if you want to avoid Windows, why not keep an open mind for other systems? Not to contactdict you, but merely to provide an alternate perspective:
Linux is based on the GPLv2, which is possible one of the most free licenses you can get. It is superior to the BSD-license in the sense that it ensures that the software stays free, where as BSD-licensed software can be put into chains by propitiatory developers. In fact, that happened to FreeBSD, when MacOSX was created, unless I'm mistaken.
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Oh, and the Linux kernel was written by a fin from Finland, not by a US-American. 😁
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Have a great evening. | 19:57:10 |
 ////\\\ | never used bsd | 20:00:22 |
| ////\\\ | btw i use arch | 20:00:29 |
 @cthulhux:matrix.org | Redacted or Malformed Event | 20:04:03 |
| ////\\\ | give me reasons why bsd is better than linux | 20:05:33 |
| ////\\\ | i will try | 20:05:42 |
| @cthulhux:matrix.org | Redacted or Malformed Event | 20:09:25 |
| ////\\\ | alright what do you guys think of GNU Guix | 20:11:04 |
| ////\\\ | i think you guys will love it | 20:11:45 |
| Mrtn | In reply to @luismbo:matrix.org
How so? I'm guessing, that what they mean, is that Windows is super slow, even when it runs GNU Emacs. | 20:16:05 |
| Mrtn | * I'm guessing, that what perse means, is that Windows is super slow, even when it runs GNU Emacs. | 20:16:24 |
| Mrtn | In reply to @cthulhux:matrix.org
The GPL is not free.
https://noordering.wordpress.com/2009/01/20/why-the-gpl-is-not-free/
Also, Linus Torvalds is a Fin from Sweden, but he’s been an US citizen for quite some time now. Respectfully:
Yes, GPLv2 and better are free. You can argue, that there was some technical problems with GPL over time, but with GPLv3 and affeo, most of those problems (if not all) have been solved. Despite this, GPLv2 was always free, ensuring the user the four fundamental freedoms.
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Linus was from Finland. It's also true, that he does speak Swedish among other languages, but he is born and raised in Finland, and that is where he wrote the first Linux kernel, and that is where he assigned the GPLv2 to it, as far as I know. | 20:25:10 |
| Mrtn | (and I read the blog entry. It only seems to consolidate GPLv2+ as being free licenses). | 20:32:32 |
| gnupluslinux | In reply to @neoreo:matrix.org
alright what do you guys think of GNU Guix I use nixos
No idea of what's happening | 21:03:21 |
 dehydrated12 | The BSD license is something you put on software you really don't care about. | 21:45:18 |
| gnupluslinux | BSD either gets proprietarized or stolen by GPL chads | 22:24:27 |
 zrn | In reply to @dehydrated12:matrix.org
The BSD license is something you put on software you really don't care about. isn't mit for that? | 22:52:22 |
| @cthulhux:matrix.org | Redacted or Malformed Event | 23:06:34 |
| @cthulhux:matrix.org | Redacted or Malformed Event | 23:07:26 |
| @cthulhux:matrix.org | Redacted or Malformed Event | 23:08:42 |
| Mrtn | Cthulhux Thank you for acknowledging this. We all make mistakes; what separates the sheep from the goats is whether we're willing to correct ourselves. 😎👍 | 23:13:05 |
