| 3 Oct 2022 |
 Mrtn |
Well .. back in the day when I first approached a UNIX terminal (a CRT one), æøå was printed on the keyboard, but when you pressed them, it would produce [|] or something. | 23:23:11 |
 Ed Langley | I think the LC_* variables still let you pick alternate encodings | 23:23:47 |
| Mrtn |
However, when you printed on the line-printer, it would be æøå .. (which was a bit of a pain when printing programs using [|]{} etc. | 23:24:08 |
| Mrtn | However, when you printed on the line-printer, it would be æøå .. (which was a bit of a pain when printing programs using [|]{^} etc). | 23:24:32 |
| Ed Langley | Yeah, I wonder if that was before locales or if your system was misconfigured | 23:24:47 |
| Mrtn |
I think it was some Unix V variant .. not sure if it was Solaris. | 23:25:31 |
| Mrtn |
But I am guessing the terminals were 7 bit .. so the options were probably limited. | 23:26:13 |
| Mrtn |
(or at least the RS232 cables). | 23:26:29 |
| Mrtn | . | 23:26:52 |
| Mrtn |
It is quite possible, it could have been set up smarter. The professors were more theoretical than practical, as far as I could tell. | 23:27:54 |
| Mrtn |
There might have been a dip-switch on the terminals, that would turn them 8 bit, I guess. | 23:28:31 |
| Mrtn |
But I guess the difference between CL and emacs-lisp, is that CL is strongly typed. Both consider я́ to be a string. | 23:31:10 |
| 4 Oct 2022 |
 ilmu | I think there is a false dichotomy at work.. since when is the choice always between something stupid and something even more stupid | 03:48:01 |
| ilmu | ah I don't mean just this, I keep running into these kinds of dismissals | 03:48:19 |
| ilmu | In reply to @edwlan:m.edw.ai
Characters have to be primitives unsubstantiated. | 03:49:27 |
 akater | In reply to @mrtnmrtn:matrix.org
But I guess the difference between CL and emacs-lisp, is that CL is strongly typed. Both consider я́ to be a string. There is little difference in how CL and Elisp treat types. Elisp doesn't have type declarations and some types present in CL ace missing but that's it. | 13:43:59 |
| Ed Langley | CL has more types, though | 15:30:27 |
| Ed Langley | E.g. it has distinct types for characters and integers | 15:30:37 |
| akater | * There is little difference in how CL and Elisp treat types. Elisp doesn't have type declarations and some types present in CL are missing but that's it. | 16:02:19 |
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