| 15 Sep 2020 |
 rocco8773 | * For now at least. Google docs is where we advertise the minutes being. | 17:26:57 |
| rocco8773 | I'm not a huge fan of google docs, so I'm not opposed to moving to a different platform. I put up with them because they're easily accessible by the community. | 17:28:27 |
| rocco8773 | Could you automate a pdf copy of the hackmd file to google docs? | 17:29:22 |
 Dominik Stańczak | To the google drive folder with minutes? Sure, with pandoc | 17:30:29 |
| rocco8773 | Yeah, to the minutes folder. It could be a pdf and/or the md file. I'm more concerned about it be automated. Because I know we will be lazy and not manually copy it at the end of day | 17:31:53 |
| Dominik Stańczak | Good point. I can set up a cron job for that for now, and then do some CI magic with the gdrive api later. | 17:34:17 |
| Dominik Stańczak | And the CI stuff is easy since hackmd has auto github sync: https://github.com/PlasmaPy/plasmapy-meeting-notes/blob/master/2020-09-15.md | 17:35:30 |
 jacob_schwartz | I'm finishing up a meeting & will try to be there in a few :( | 18:39:38 |
| Dominik Stańczak | No worries, take your time | 18:39:48 |
| jacob_schwartz | Thanks to Eric for your suggestion to find existing databases. So, there's this one: https://www.nndc.bnl.gov/sigma/ which I think will have every cross section we'd need. The only part that's slightly annoying is that it's in a tabular format, since it's a Serious Business neutronics database, and that there's not rate coefficient data. | 20:38:44 |
| rocco8773 | One option we should have is allowing users to specify their own database to substitute for our default one. Probably not something to include in your first iteration, but at least keep it in mind. | 21:20:08 |
| rocco8773 | this might be useful too | 21:27:56 |
| rocco8773 | https://www-amdis.iaea.org/databases.php#db-genie | 21:27:58 |
| rocco8773 | If NIST has a database, then that would be nice. Then you'd have a trusted source. | 21:28:59 |
| rocco8773 | That will be a big one, we'll have to grab data from a trusted source. | 21:29:23 |
| jacob_schwartz | From a quick search I don't think NIST has one. While it has many SRDs for atomic data, I don't see any for nuclear data other than masses and half-lives. https://www.nist.gov/srd/physics
I'm afraid the databases on the IAEA page are atomic and molecular data. Confusingly, here 'atomic' means processes dealing with electrons etc, not transformations of the nuclei.
I'll keep looking around. | 22:03:05 |
| 16 Sep 2020 |
| rocco8773 | I polled the crew on the BaPSF slack channel about this.
For atomic/molecular cross sections I got these two links:
https://www.nist.gov/pml/atomic-spectra-database
https://us.lxcat.net/data/set_type.php
For nuclear cross-sections, Troy Carter recommended:
https://www-nds.iaea.org/exfor/endf.htm | 00:36:22 |
 Nick Murphy | When dealing with atomic and nuclear databases, we'll need to be careful with the licenses....for example: "LXCat does not authorize third parties (commercial interests, in particular) to redistribute data from the LXCat site. " | 01:23:29 |
| Nick Murphy | ...which is a big limit to scientific reproducibility. | 01:24:03 |
| Nick Murphy | ...but NIST data should be public domain since it's US federal government. | 01:27:37 |
| rocco8773 | Well, if you continue reading LXCat's redistribution policy it's doesn't sound as dire as their heading. If we get contact the LXCat team (info@@lxcat.net) we might be able to work something out. Of course, that is if we decide one or more of their databases are necessary for our functionality. | 23:46:46 |
| rocco8773 | In any event, we should probably list this sources as places to get cross-section data.
I do think our functionality should allow for the input of custom (user) databases. | 23:48:34 |
| 17 Sep 2020 |
| Nick Murphy | Yeah...reaching out to different databases would be a really helpful thing to do, especially since licensing of database data has been a persistent thorn in my side. | 15:15:03 |
| Nick Murphy | Also: it feels strange to not have a seven hour long Zoom meeting today. | 15:16:43 |
 SolarDrew | that is too many hours | 15:21:10 |
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| 19 Sep 2020 |
| Nick Murphy | I finally got around to uploading PlasmaPy 0.4.0 to Zenodo. Still need to update the Star Fleet android personnel file. | 00:00:37 |
| Nick Murphy | ...I mean the metaData. | 00:00:44 |
